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pedrobd 04-12-13 11:43 AM

Colnago Help
 
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Hello I bought this colnago and don't know if it is the real deal, can anybody help, thanks in advance.
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Giacomo 1 04-12-13 12:54 PM

Welcome to the forums!

A bit of a mystery I think. My very amateur opinion is this is not a genuine Colnago. I think it could be a Devos or maybe a Hasko, both of which I believe were actually made by Colnago, hence the Colnago dropouts and his ace of clubs usage. I say this because the brake bridges look different than any other Colnago I've seen, and the BB holes should be the clubs shape instead of what you have. The fork doesn't look quite right either and there is no ace of clubs in the lug at the top of the DT.

What does the Columbus sticker say?

Now don't panic, I'm not an expert and somebody could really prove me wrong! So let's see what other's think...

repechage 04-12-13 01:52 PM

doubled up, see below.

repechage 04-12-13 01:57 PM

One could convince me that the fork has some tie to Colnago, but even then the crown style is very atypical. On the frame, it has Colnago graphics and rear dropouts.. I kind of agree, Devos or a Colnago Sport maybe. Once Colnago started to use the club motif on his bottom brackets that became a pretty standard signifier.

EhGiOeS 04-12-13 03:45 PM

All the Devos Haskos I have ever seen ,admittedly not many, had the name cast into the fork crown. From about 1990 you see lots of Colnagos without the club cutout
in the BB shell. There were so many Euro market varieties I don't think even Don Ernesto could keep up with them. Export,Victory,Junior,Ernesto Special,Luis Colnago,
Giovanni to name a few. Ed

mymojo 04-12-13 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by EhGiOeS (Post 15503974)
From about 1990 you see lots of Colnagos without the club cutout
in the BB shell.

Yeppers. I have a '93 Sprint that doesnt have the club cut-out in the BB.

The part that seems off to me is the downtube lug missing the club. I'm no expert either, but that makes me dubious.

Giacomo 1 04-12-13 05:43 PM

I linked to an e-bay Hasko, and I have to say, there are many similarities, but also some differences, albeit minor.

The brake bridge is identical, as is the BB hole and BB lug cutout. The Colnago club is missing on the top of the DT lug, just like the OP's, which I believe all true Colnago's have. Chainstays look identical to. Differences - the fork crown has Hasko stamped on it instead of the clubs. This one also has a chrome fork, but that could a difference in the years they were built.

Is this paint original? I've never seen a Colnago in that color.

Here's the Hasko - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Colnago-Hask...item27d10a349e

pedrobd 04-12-13 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Giacomo 1 (Post 15504313)
I linked to an e-bay Hasko, and I have to say, there are many similarities, but also some differences, albeit minor.

The brake bridge is identical, as is the BB hole and BB lug cutout. The Colnago club is missing on the top of the DT lug, just like the OP's, which I believe all true Colnago's have. Chainstays look identical to. Differences - the fork crown has Hasko stamped on it instead of the clubs. This one also has a chrome fork, but that could a difference in the years they were built.

Is this paint original? I've never seen a Colnago in that color.

Here's the Hasko - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Colnago-Hask...item27d10a349e

I think it was repainted, and I don't know if helps but the fork dropouts there is colnago engraved.

bici_mania 04-13-13 12:52 AM

A clear and close shot of the seat cluster may help solve this mystery

Giacomo 1 04-13-13 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by pedrobd (Post 15504474)
I think it was repainted, and I don't know if helps but the fork dropouts there is colnago engraved.

As far as I know, if it is a Devos or Hasko, it was made by Ernesto Colnago, so having Colnago dropouts would make sense. I believe that these two companies imported these bikes with Colnago decals and graphics in order to save on some type of tax. Had they been in their own livery, they would have had to pay on it.

If I might ask, what did you pay for her? What did the previous owner say it was? Do you know it's history at all? What does the Columbus sticker say?

As bici mania said, a good pic of the seat stays and cluster might be helpful. Does it have any pantographing on the seat stay caps?

pedrobd 04-13-13 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Giacomo 1 (Post 15505544)
As far as I know, if it is a Devos or Hasko, it was made by Ernesto Colnago, so having Colnago dropouts would make sense. I believe that these two companies imported these bikes with Colnago decals and graphics in order to save on some type of tax. Had they been in their own livery, they would have had to pay on it.

If I might ask, what did you pay for her? What did the previous owner say it was? Do you know it's history at all? What does the Columbus sticker say?

As bici mania said, a good pic of the seat stays and cluster might be helpful. Does it have any pantographing on the seat stay caps?

The bike doesn't have any pantographing on the seat stay caps, I don't know the history of the bike, and I pay 250 dollars for it, the columbus stickers doesn't say much, doesn't have slx, or sl .


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