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Old 04-22-13, 07:51 PM
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Peugeot Super Vitus Mystery

So I bought this from a guy a few years ago. Haven't been able to put a date on it yet. Consensus three years ago was that it is not a US original bike, most likely built after 1987. I've been leaning toward it being a 92 from the serial number, but cannot get an verification. IF anyone knows anything, or can put me in touch with someone who would I'd appreciate it. Thanks!




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Well I'm pretty sure the first 3 letters in the aecond set of numbers is the model bike looks Like a great later pug!
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Old 04-22-13, 08:28 PM
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Yeah, We're sure it is a PSV model, just not sure what year it is, where it was sold, etc
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Looks like 88 ish decals, but use of Super Vitus tubing seems sparse after that in the catalogs I've been through.

Nice looking bike.
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Definitely later than 85. Peugeot seems to have lost the appetite for chrome on their forks towards the late 80's. Most likely all English threaded too, although it might have retained the 26.4mm seatpost diameter. For some reason, it looks more like a late 80's bike than a 92.....
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Originally Posted by 20grit View Post
Looks like 88 ish decals, but use of Super Vitus tubing seems sparse after that in the catalogs I've been through.

Nice looking bike.
+1 on the color/decal scheme being from 1988. Savoie was the only one in the French lineup with Super Vitus. And it was red, not blue. In de Dutch catalogue the Galibier looked liked exactly like yours, except for the Reynolds tubing decals ...
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Old 04-23-13, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
+1 on the color/decal scheme being from 1988. Savoie was the only one in the French lineup with Super Vitus. And it was red, not blue. In de Dutch catalogue the Galibier looked liked exactly like yours, except for the Reynolds tubing decals ...
I like it! Now we are getting somewhere. Any chance you have (can get) scans of the catalogs?

So what I need to do is find a French or Dutch tag to compare.
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Originally Posted by DKop3 View Post
I like it! Now we are getting somewhere. Any chance you have (can get) scans of the catalogs?

So what I need to do is find a French or Dutch tag to compare.
https://www.peugeotshow.com/1988fr.html

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The 1988 Catalog has a similarly outfitted Deauville.
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DKop3- Your frameset is a stripped down American spec Peugeot Triathalon which would have had 1st generation Shimano 105 as OEM equipment. The photo in my catalogue is exactly the same as your colour and decal scheme but does not id the year of publication. The 1st gen Biopace 105 would put the bike around 1985-87?
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DKop3- Your frameset is a stripped down American spec Peugeot Triathalon which would have had 1st generation Shimano 105 as OEM equipment. The photo in my catalogue is exactly the same as your colour and decal scheme but does not id the year of publication. The 1st gen Biopace 105 would put the bike around 1985-87?
The bike appears to have modolo speedy's on it. That would be per the spec for The Savoie and Deauxville.

I'd love to have a SV 980 frame in that size. Always wanted one.
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There was never any 105 on this bike. It came with the Modolos on it, the wheels were trashed before I got there, the original owner threw them out. I found the catalogs and have to say that the frame is an exact looker for the '88 Galibier... https://www.peugeotshow.com/1988nl/1988nl_03.jpg but that was a Reynolds tubed frame. I did find some info about how Peugeot used the SV980 on their tri bikes Jim, so that could be a possibility.

I've not found anything that would lead me to believe this is an American bike as of yet. But the guy I got the bike from lives in a town heavily populated by Dutch people. From looking at the catalogs after 89 I really doubt that the bike is a 92. Seems like 87-late 88 is when it was made
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Originally Posted by 20grit View Post
The bike appears to have modolo speedy's on it. That would be per the spec for The Savoie and Deauxville.

I'd love to have a SV 980 frame in that size. Always wanted one.
From going over the French catalog it would only make sense for it to be a Savoie or an Aravis, though the tags don't match up at all (Aravis would be PG10BW, Savoie PS10BW).

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I second the 85-86 Triathalon opinion.
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I second the 85-86 Triathalon opinion.
Because...
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Nice frame. That would be a fun build. I own and ride regularly two SV 980 framed Peugeots, both 60 cm.

My '86 Triathlon has the braze-ons for the tool-kit under the down tube. I can't tell from the pics but if yours have them it may indicate it is a variation of the Triathlon.

Frame construction/lugs/pump peg looks identical to my '86, except for the painted rather than chromed fork. I would agree 1988.

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1987 Triathlon

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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
A Peugeot Triathlon will have the "Trailthlon" decal on the top tube near the seat as seen on the catalogue pics. IIRC, all the Triathlons sold in the US had that decal and it could not be removed unless you strip the frame as they always clearcoated their decals in the 80's (except for the PY10FC).

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As refresher...

Super Vitus tubing used form '82-'88

'82-'83 have checker or striped decals
'84's have the goofy seat post binder on the back of the seat tube
'85-'86 have the internally expanding seat post
'87-'88 have regular seat post binder bolts

'82-'84 frames have French fork threads with Swiss BB's...in most instances. There's probably a few odd balls out there.
'85-'88 frames have BSA (British) threading all around.
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Originally Posted by DKop3 View Post
I like it! Now we are getting somewhere. Any chance you have (can get) scans of the catalogs?

So what I need to do is find a French or Dutch tag to compare.

Whats the serial number stamped into the metal? The chain stay decal says 'Made in France' in English so I don't think its a French or Dutch model.
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Not quite Jim. The "Peugeot" decal is in navy blue on the Triathlon, plus there is a thin white strip behind the top tube's rainbowing in the pictures of all the tris that is not on my bike. Also the rear dropouts on my bike are Simplex, the headset is a Stronglight A9, the brakes Speedy Modolo. Besides that there is an inch or so gap underneath the lion decal on the seat tube of the Triathlon that isn't on my bike (the rainbow starts immediately underfoot of my lion.

Almost there though
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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
Whats the serial number stamped into the metal? The chain stay decal says 'Made in France' in English so I don't think its a French or Dutch model.
Looks to be B 0 366
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Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
A Peugeot Triathlon will have the "Trailthlon" decal on the top tube near the seat as seen on the catalogue pics. IIRC, all the Triathlons sold in the US had that decal and it could not be removed unless you strip the frame as they always clearcoated their decals in the 80's (except for the PY10FC).

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I'm with you,but aside from the 'Triathlon' decal its almost a dead ringer. Another subtle difference is the 'PEUGEOT' down tube decal, '87's were block style, in '88 they sort of italicized PEUGEOT .

My guess is either late '87 production with '88 decals or a left over '87 with '88 decals (unlikely as they wouldn't sell an old paint scheme as a current model)
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Not quite Jim. The "Peugeot" decal is in navy blue on the Triathlon, plus there is a thin white strip behind the top tube's rainbowing in the pictures of all the tris that is not on my bike. Also the rear dropouts on my bike are Simplex, the headset is a Stronglight A9, the brakes Speedy Modolo. Besides that there is an inch or so gap underneath the lion decal on the seat tube of the Triathlon that isn't on my bike (the rainbow starts immediately underfoot of my lion.

Almost there though
Your trying too hard.....decal proportions will vary with frame size. The positioning of the catalog decals (most likely a 58cm frame) will be different than your 62cm. Same with the paint fade...it'll fade in differently.

Your missing serial number digits. The format is X123 45678 where 'X' is a letter, usually its 'B' and 123 would be the year and month of production, the remaining numbers are the frame sequential number. And there's a space in there between the 3 and 4. So something like B710 24267 with the '7' denoting 1987 and '10' denoting October. 24267 would be some sort of sequential production number.
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Your missing serial number digits. The format is X123 45678 where 'X' is a letter, usually its 'B' and 123 would be the year and month of production, the remaining numbers are the frame sequential number
I was thinking numbers were missing, which leads me to something I'd been pondering for a long time. Could this be a repaint? THe numbers are there, underneath the paint though. I've had the idea that maybe it wasn't an original for years, but the tag is perfect, plus there was a sticker from whatever shop it originally sold out of that's been removed (can see some ghosting left on the clearcoat
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