Dual-pivot brakes.
04-25-13, 09:49 PM
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04-26-13, 12:50 AM
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So, I guess most of you never upgraded to DP, huh? 
Don't worry, I'm gonna be looking around, for smart-arsed answers, for any other brake threads anyone might be foolish enough to start. 
Just so you know, I rode one of my klunky old steel frames, while you all thought about it. 
Don't worry, I'm gonna be looking around, for smart-arsed answers, for any other brake threads anyone might be foolish enough to start. Just so you know, I rode one of my klunky old steel frames, while you all thought about it. I prefer the Chorus with modern brakepads and cables.
04-26-13, 04:16 AM
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So, I guess most of you never upgraded to DP, huh? Don't worry, I'm gonna be looking around, for smart-arsed answers, for any other brake threads anyone might be foolish enough to start. Just so you know, I rode one of my klunky old steel frames, while you all thought about it.
Don't worry, I'm gonna be looking around, for smart-arsed answers, for any other brake threads anyone might be foolish enough to start. Just so you know, I rode one of my klunky old steel frames, while you all thought about it. Have ridden in quick (20-25mph) groups and lines with V, canti, and sidepull and maybe some others as well - the modulation was fine.
I've occasionally said that you don't really know a bike until you recognize it when riding it in the dark, and I'd be surprised if 5 degrees farenheit didn't make more difference than swapping a decent sidepull for a similar level dual pivot with similar pads.
In the grand scheme of things, unless you need real wet weather stopping or are carrying a heavy load and worry about exploding a tire, go with what you think is pretty. They all can work really well when you aren't looking at them.
Right now, I'm liking the look of centerpulls. I appreciate the symmetry. Side & dp are fine, and I have a medium reach pair of 600's I fully intend to use, but not right now, thanks.
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04-26-13, 04:48 AM
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howard's onto something. i think choice in lever is more important to the feel of the braking than the single/dual choice. and pad choice is maybe even more important.
a modern lever, combined with the best pad available, functions nearly as well with single pivot side-pulls as with duals. i will say, though, setup and maintenance are easier with dual pivots.
a modern lever, combined with the best pad available, functions nearly as well with single pivot side-pulls as with duals. i will say, though, setup and maintenance are easier with dual pivots.
04-26-13, 05:33 AM
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04-26-13, 05:36 AM
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6400 DP in the front and 6400 SP in the rear.
It looks pretty cool. And "rebellious."
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04-26-13, 09:45 AM
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Dual pivots are SUPER easy to set up, and that's probably the main reason I prefer them. I have plenty of experience with them and with centerpulls, and less experience with single pivots. When I have used single pivots, I found that with good pads they stop you just fine--however they are annoying to set up properly (for me, anyway). Given the choice, unless there is a reason I need to be "period correct," I will get some Tektro dual pivots with Kool Stop pads on there and be done with it.
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04-26-13, 10:08 AM
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Am I missing something? I always thought single-pivots were super-easy to set up too, as long as you have the 13 or 14mm cone wrench...
Or was I just a spoiled kid with my Dura Ace while all the kids at the orphanage were diddling with their inferior Campy brakes?
Or was I just a spoiled kid with my Dura Ace while all the kids at the orphanage were diddling with their inferior Campy brakes?
04-26-13, 11:03 AM
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04-26-13, 11:46 AM
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I dunno, maybe you're just super talented! I haven't used Campagnolo or Dura Ace single pivots, only midrange ones from Dia Compe, Weinmann, and Shimano. They all were pretty annoying to set up and get centered, cone wrench or no. I'm sure it gets easier with practice, like everything--but I have no real reason to practice.
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04-26-13, 12:05 PM
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04-26-13, 08:36 PM
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They're not too hard to take apart and clean, just keep track of all the little bits and bobs and make sure you know where they go when you put it back together. Scrub with a toothbrush and your favorite solvent, oil all the threads and such, and you're good to go.
04-26-13, 08:46 PM
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Actually, I was surprised at just how easy this was. Looking at them, I expected way more parts hiding inside. 
04-27-13, 03:11 AM
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Dual Pivot front, Single Pivot rear for me also. It's the only way to fly.
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