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Bit the bullet... Aldo Simonato 70es frame...

Old 04-27-13, 12:32 AM
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Bit the bullet... Aldo Simonato 70es frame...

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Old 04-27-13, 12:42 AM
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That's a very beautiful frame!. Especially love that engraving on the heat tube and the fork crown.
Too bad about the damage, doesn't look too bad though. Other than maybe a re-alignment, will you be doing any other repairs?

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desc (seller has v. good ratings) states it's actually straight as in no hands riding straight.
will have to see it to believe it.

will admit that frame looks fragile
but I don't weigh a lot
anyway, bike's gonna get a lot more KM's

i guess the rear triangle will stay as is until it fails.
i love the beat look of the bike, that's pretty much my genre.

the cork (?) in the fork steerer tube is kind of radical
also the cutout in the campy (?) DOs seems to have been enlarged...
and check out the bb shell....
can we say it's a drillium'd frame ? (the fork crown also got some [tiny] cutouts !)

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Old 04-27-13, 01:18 AM
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Ah yes, I lost a little drool over that one too. Good luck with the resto.
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the cork (?) in the fork steerer tube is kind of radical
Believe it or not but this thing has a name and an entrance in French wikipedia! It's called a cornouillet, which means "made out of dogwood". Puzzling to me, but some very knowledgable people (on this and other forums) say the plugs functions as an insurance against a snapping steerer. Seems common on French bikes, rare on Italians.So remember, do not settle for pine, birch or oak. Dogwood, nothing less!
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in montréal, québec, i saw a 70es marinoni track bike w/ cork at the bottom of the steer tube


edit: read the article... cork makes even less sense for this purpose...

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Sweet bike, that beat look is Patina...me likey.
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It seems like a bargain to me. That stuff is hard to come by.



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Believe it or not but this thing has a name and an entrance in French wikipedia! It's called a cornouillet, which means "made out of dogwood". Puzzling to me, but some very knowledgable people (on this and other forums) say the plugs functions as an insurance against a snapping steerer. Seems common on French bikes, rare on Italians.So remember, do not settle for pine, birch or oak. Dogwood, nothing less!

That is interesting. Many years ago I made a BMX frame for a guy and he asked my to leave enough head tube exposed below the down tube to install a hose clamp around the head tube. The hose clamp (worm type) was supposed to prevent the head tube from being ovalized. I had a hard time convincing him to just let me make a thicker head tube.

I think it (wood) would absorb moisture and cause rust but there could be something to it as it would help keep the tube round when flexing.
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I like it...except the dent obviously. The head lug is purdy and it's definitely charming.
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Huh? I thought the cork plug was just to keep road spray out of the steerer when riding on wet roads.
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Originally Posted by Velognome
Huh? I thought the cork plug was just to keep road spray out of the steerer when riding on wet roads.

Well I guess that for every halfempty bottle of red capped with a dogwood plug in the Peugeot factory's lunchroom, a PX10 rolled out with a cork in the steerer tube...

There was at least one discussion on this here in C&V, but that could have been some sort of thread derailment and may be hard to find. The fact that the plug was made from hardwood speaks for the "added strength" theory, plus, oxidation seemed worse with the plug than without. Still, this is all very counterintuitive, I don't understand for instance why these cornouillets came on the best forks of the era (PX, PY etc) and not on the lesser ones.
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Thanks! Now I have a name for that thing. I was just calling it that friggin' piece-O-wood in my Le Champion steerer that caused rust inside the steerer tube. Yeah, moisture trap as far as I'm concerned. But I remember my old PX-10 had one too.
BTW, now that I know what it's called and the species of wood they used I'm going to try to flog this thing to pb*bikes for sixty bucks.
Gotta be worth double that, or triple ...don't you think?
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Most certainly the finishing touch on any serieus early 70ies French restoration, so money shouldn't be an object. But of course the dogwood has to come from one of the few tiny plantations in the south of France, where soil and climatic conditions are perfect and the ultimate dowelproducing dogwood shrub has been selected by generations of constructeurs de plugs.
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am I dreaming or the dropouts' cutout have been enlarged ???
edit : probably dreaming here..

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wow that didnt take long to rip on me again! you got some hatin in you rootwood
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I've got one of those plugs in one of my old road bikes. I'll have to try to flog it on e-bay!

Edit: very pretty bike and the cork is a keeper!
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Originally Posted by CMAW
Believe it or not but this thing has a name and an entrance in French wikipedia! It's called a cornouillet, which means "made out of dogwood". Puzzling to me, but some very knowledgable people (on this and other forums) say the plugs functions as an insurance against a snapping steerer. Seems common on French bikes, rare on Italians.So remember, do not settle for pine, birch or oak. Dogwood, nothing less!
This is a totally awesome piece of trivia; @ CMAW: je te remercie
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