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Old 05-13-13, 01:35 AM
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Identifying a vintage Peugeot

Hello guys, I am new to the forumand I seek your advice. I have decided to restore an old bicycle I had, an old Peugeot model. I have already changed the wheels and everything else that couldn't be fixed. The problem is that I need to identify it and I can't because the decals are missing and are only partially visible!

I will give you any info I can so that you might help me. The original stem is SR, the brakes are Weinmann Vainqueur 610 and the speed levers are Sachs. The color of the bike is silver-greyish. As for the decals, one "DIN" is clearly visible in the bicycles body and two partially visible that remind the colors he German flag. The front decal is partially vsible and includes some letters of Peugeot logo.

I will attach a photo and will try to attach more.

from a research I 've done it seems to be a 60's model but not sure! In addition the bicycle indluded a plastic chain cover part, which I removed!

Please help!
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Old 05-13-13, 02:47 AM
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Better pictures of frame and any remaining art work will be needed before I would even attempt to hazard a guess about the bicycle's vintage or pedigree. Include those, coupled with a measurement of the width of the bottom bracket housing, coupled with a measurement of the seat post diameter, and I might be able to help a bit more.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa
Better pictures of frame and any remaining art work will be needed before I would even attempt to hazard a guess about the bicycle's vintage or pedigree. Include those, coupled with a measurement of the width of the bottom bracket housing, coupled with a measurement of the seat post diameter, and I might be able to help a bit more.
Thank you! I will try to provide you with every info i can!
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Well, it's got the generator tab on the rear stays which would make it a touring model, along the the lines of a UE8 but it doesn't have the Aztec lugs. That really narrows the candidates. The spear pont lugs, in conjunction with an OEM SR stem, Weimmann brakes and Sachs levers would put it well into the 1980s. Prior to that Peugeot used French components almost exclusively and used Simplex derailleurs. Now, Peugeot USA stopped cataloging the touring bicycles shortly after the boom ended , so it's probably a foreign model. The steel, cottered crankset is curious given the other components. Is it a replacement? What's the serial number?
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Old 05-13-13, 12:06 PM
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More pics would be good. Somehow it doesn't look like a Peugeot at all.
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Old 05-13-13, 12:40 PM
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OK I managed to get some more shots. some of the decals were visible before and they were peugeot decals, I remember them clearly! The long stay in the storeroom destroyed the decals completely! In addition, the width of the bottom bracket housing is approximately 7.8cm and the seat post diameter is 3cm.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
Well, it's got the generator tab on the rear stays which would make it a touring model, along the the lines of a UE8 but it doesn't have the Aztec lugs. That really narrows the candidates. The spear pont lugs, in conjunction with an OEM SR stem, Weimmann brakes and Sachs levers would put it well into the 1980s. Prior to that Peugeot used French components almost exclusively and used Simplex derailleurs. Now, Peugeot USA stopped cataloging the touring bicycles shortly after the boom ended , so it's probably a foreign model. The steel, cottered crankset is curious given the other components. Is it a replacement? What's the serial number?

The crankset is a replacement. The original was badly rusted! The pedals were not replaced though.
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Thanks for the pics. Still doesn't look like a Peugeot at all.
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Old 05-14-13, 12:28 AM
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I forgot to mention that I live in Greece.
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I took a long look at your pictures, and I think it's a Kalkhoff. Have a look at these:

https://oldtenspeedgallery.com/owner-.../#.UZH7hEpn0f4

https://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/vie...p?f=16&t=30044

Originally sold as a touring bike, with fenders, changuard, lights, lock and what have you. Not high-end, but if it rides nice, it would be kind of cool to rebuild it as a tourer once again.
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Originally Posted by Tasosdio
I forgot to mention that I live in Greece.
I suspected as much from your handle . BTW, welcome to C&V. Hope you enjoy the bike!
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
I took a long look at your pictures, and I think it's a Kalkhoff. Have a look at these:

https://oldtenspeedgallery.com/owner-.../#.UZH7hEpn0f4

https://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/vie...p?f=16&t=30044

Originally sold as a touring bike, with fenders, changuard, lights, lock and what have you. Not high-end, but if it rides nice, it would be kind of cool to rebuild it as a tourer once again.

Yes!! It seems that you are right! I was misleaded by some peugeot decals the bike used to have, don't know for what reason! thank you! It rides fine, it's very light and I plan to save it and fully restore it. Would it be possible to estimate the year of production and define the model?
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Nothing here says "peugeot" to me, either, especially the drive-side dropout. This is a very cheap frame. If you just want something to ride, work on it as much as you like, but you are not refurbishing a coveted collectible here.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
I took a long look at your pictures, and I think it's a Kalkhoff. Have a look at these:

https://oldtenspeedgallery.com/owner-.../#.UZH7hEpn0f4

https://www.ratrodbikes.com/forum/vie...p?f=16&t=30044

Originally sold as a touring bike, with fenders, changuard, lights, lock and what have you. Not high-end, but if it rides nice, it would be kind of cool to rebuild it as a tourer once again.
This would explain the "DIN" sticker - it's German.
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It would just have been a pity if I threw it away. I am going to restore it. New paintjob etc. From some photos I saw the decal pattern resemble Kalkhoff professional model. It will be fun restoring it!
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Originally Posted by Tasosdio
It would just have been a pity if I threw it away. I am going to restore it. New paintjob etc. From some photos I saw the decal pattern resemble Kalkhoff professional model. It will be fun restoring it!
Agreed plus Greece is undergoing an economic meltdown of the first order; this is not a time to be throwing out old stuff. I don't live in Europe but I'm sorry that the EU is deciding to inflict this much economic pain on its southern nations.
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With a repaint and a rebuff of the bling it could be a nice rider. I don't see anything in the pix that scream "spend lots of money/time on me".
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Originally Posted by Tasosdio
(...) Would it be possible to estimate the year of production and define the model?
To get an idea of the age, have a look at the back of the Weinmann brake calipers. There should be a date code (a year, IIRC, like "76"). If they are original tot the bike (and I suspect they are) it will be a good indication of when this bike was built. As for the model, I've seen a "Club" on the internet that looked similar, but not exactly the same. But if you search long enough, you might well get lucky.
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