Them's the brakes: help me pick a set of long-reach brakes
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Them's the brakes: help me pick a set of long-reach brakes
I'm on the hunt for a set of long-reach brakes for a period-sensitive 1982 Jack Taylor build currently in process. I suspect the bike was designed for 27" wheels because the brake reach is 66mm front and rear as measured with my digital caliper. The previous owner had it built up with 700c wheels and MAFAC Racers, set up with the pads at the max reach. Worked just fine.
I've verified that both MAFAC Racers and Weinmann 750s will work on this bike. But I'm tired of the usual suspects, I already have those on other bikes and I'm looking for something a little more "special" for this bike.
So... what other options do I have, if any? I'm not necessarily set on center pulls, either, though I suspect there are no vintage side pulls out there with that much reach.
I've verified that both MAFAC Racers and Weinmann 750s will work on this bike. But I'm tired of the usual suspects, I already have those on other bikes and I'm looking for something a little more "special" for this bike.
So... what other options do I have, if any? I'm not necessarily set on center pulls, either, though I suspect there are no vintage side pulls out there with that much reach.
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I'm thinking about being a dork and using 27" on a bike that was original with 700c but I put on short reach brakes that aren't working with 700c. I like the brakes and I'm ambivalent about 700c vs. 27.
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CLB 1 or 2 would be cool.
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Drop bolt and shorter-reach brakes, perhaps?
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They're pricey, but I like my Paul's Racers quite a bit. I'm seriously considering putting a set of the braze-on type on my Centurion Pro Tour.
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I want to avoid adapter-type applications on this particular build.
I'd go with Pauls for a newer build, but want to stick with components that would look correct on an early 1980s bike.
It's looking more and more like I should just stick with MAFAC Racers... they're cheap and work well. I was just hoping for something more exotic. Maybe I'll measure some Universals and see if they have enough reach.
It's looking more and more like I should just stick with MAFAC Racers... they're cheap and work well. I was just hoping for something more exotic. Maybe I'll measure some Universals and see if they have enough reach.
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How about MAFAC Competitions? There were a few different versions. A very nice looking brake.
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I don't know of any road-specific sidepulls in '82 that were longer than 59mm, so nice ones with drop bolts would likely be your only option there. BMX was happening in '82, so there are probably silver Dia-Compe calipers long enough, but they'd be pretty declasse for a Jack Taylor.
Checked my Gran-Compe sidepulls, they max out at 57mm (as stamped on the back), don't think they made a longer length. So "normal" Mafac/Weinmann/D-C may be your only non-modified vintage choice.
Are we missing anything? New wheels/hubs and Arai discs f/r, or better yet unless you value your life, Phil Wood discs? Period-correct they'd be... :^**
As far as modern goes, I'm a big Paul fan, but though they look cool and kinda appropriate (IHMO), they won't pass the vintage smell test. The Velo-Orange/Gran-Compe 610s are a little too short. Tektro has sidepulls that are long enough, but clearly not vintage.
Checked my Gran-Compe sidepulls, they max out at 57mm (as stamped on the back), don't think they made a longer length. So "normal" Mafac/Weinmann/D-C may be your only non-modified vintage choice.
Are we missing anything? New wheels/hubs and Arai discs f/r, or better yet unless you value your life, Phil Wood discs? Period-correct they'd be... :^**
As far as modern goes, I'm a big Paul fan, but though they look cool and kinda appropriate (IHMO), they won't pass the vintage smell test. The Velo-Orange/Gran-Compe 610s are a little too short. Tektro has sidepulls that are long enough, but clearly not vintage.
I'm on the hunt for a set of long-reach brakes for a period-sensitive 1982 Jack Taylor...brake reach is 66mm front and rear as measured with my digital caliper. The previous owner had it built up with 700c wheels and MAFAC Racers...Worked just fine...verified that both MAFAC Racers and Weinmann 750s will work...But I'm tired of the usual suspects...looking for something a little more "special" for this bike...what other options do I have, if any?...I suspect there are no vintage side pulls out there with that much reach.
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i know you said you don't want them, but i think maybe gold MAFAC 2000's would look good on that bike.
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I want to avoid adapter-type applications on this particular build.
I'd go with Pauls for a newer build, but want to stick with components that would look correct on an early 1980s bike.
It's looking more and more like I should just stick with MAFAC Racers... they're cheap and work well. I was just hoping for something more exotic. Maybe I'll measure some Universals and see if they have enough reach.
I'd go with Pauls for a newer build, but want to stick with components that would look correct on an early 1980s bike.
It's looking more and more like I should just stick with MAFAC Racers... they're cheap and work well. I was just hoping for something more exotic. Maybe I'll measure some Universals and see if they have enough reach.
CLB 1 or 2 would be cool.
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I apologize for the grime, but these puppies are pretty nice looking when cleaned up and are 57mm (max). Not sure of the model designation but position-wise I think they're a precursor to 105. Scroll down for photo of a cleaned up set that I now have installed on another bike.
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How about a set of Baillia center pulls, either the embossed or scrip version. I have both.
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These are certainly nothing special, but in the description it says they'll reach out to 67mm. Just a thought.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/190846426846...84.m1436.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/190846426846...84.m1436.l2649
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You know, after seeing what Jon Williams (Drillium Revival) did to a pair of VO's latest brakes at the Cirque, I'd suggest sending him a pair of Tektro R559 calipers and having him make them sleek and period-correct-like -- but with actual stopping power.
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