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Rim recs to pair with my Campy record hubs.

Old 05-26-13, 10:30 AM
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Rim recs to pair with my Campy record hubs.

Hey I have a nice set of 700c campy record hubs, 36h, that I want to build up with new rims. I don't want to break the bank because I have other needs as well but would like a more classic look (so not deep aero). I have had mixed experience buying older used rims llike MA40s (used being not round and NOS being really pricey), so I am going to go with new. I have looked at some offerings from Velo Orange, which look good, but am interested in other options. One issue I am having is that I want to run 23 or25mm tires and am finding that road rims of the appropriate width don't come 36h while 36h options are a bit wide (touring or tandem designs). Also, rim makers seem to be in love with graphics and all that writing doesn't work with the classic look I am going for. Mavic open pro and open sport, Sun Cr18, a couple of Alex options are all on the table. But am hoping the C&V folks might have some thoughts on options with the understated classic box look I am looking for.
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Old 05-26-13, 12:41 PM
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The Suns are good, build up well but aren't especially vintage looking. For that I'd go with the Velo-Orange, also build nicely. Easy to take the labels off with a heat gun. Otherwise, used rims from ebay.
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I built a set of wheels using vintage Campy hubs. Used Sun M13-II's. Really nice rims with a somewhat classic look and, the labels/stickers peel right off.
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I don't mean to be picky but you have Campy hubs not 700c Campy hubs.

That being said I had a nice pair of wheels built with the Sun rims and they look great. I did have the builder take the decals off though.
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I recently acquired a set of Campy HF hubs built up with Sun M13-ii rims. I put Challenge Parigi-Roubaix on them, which are supposedly 27mm, a bit wide for those rims though I don't think they look 'bulgy.' In fact the look is quite nice, maybe others are more particular. I'll try to get up a picture tomorrow.
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I've been looking at these rims to re-fit the campy record set I sold a customer:

https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...700c-rims.html

450grams, look pretty good to me...
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Originally Posted by anixi View Post
I've been looking at these rims to re-fit the campy record set I sold a customer:

https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...700c-rims.html

450grams, look pretty good to me...
I agree, they're at the top of the list. The Sun M13ii that rootboy recommended at also possibility; I hadn't come across them before but they are cheaper than th VOs, and a better option than the Sun CR18s, which are a bit too wide. I am not sure I want go with the polished look and M13s come in black as well, although if I decide on black, I could just build the hubs into a set of Open Pros I have that still have life in them.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
I don't mean to be picky but you have Campy hubs not 700c Campy hubs.
You can't put a 700c rim on a Hub that previously had a 27" rim on them originally? I thought that was done all the time?
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Originally Posted by 2112YYZ View Post
You can't put a 700c rim on a Hub that previously had a 27" rim on them originally? I thought that was done all the time?
You can put any rims on those hubs you want to, LOL. She's just saying that the HUBS aren't 700c, the RIMS are, or at least would be. Another option you might look at, is Velocity rims, made in Australia. I bought a set of wheels awhile back now, with Campagnolo Record hubs, laced to the Velocity 700c rims, and they're a lot better than I thought they'd be. They're light, strong, & look good too. The ones I have aren't a deep rim at all, maybe a little bit aero-ish, but not much. They look good enough to me anyways, but different people have different tastes.
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Originally Posted by 2112YYZ View Post
You can't put a 700c rim on a Hub that previously had a 27" rim on them originally? I thought that was done all the time?
Sure your can. I garbled my original post, started writing that I had 700c rims on 36h campy hubs that I wanted to replace but reworded and wound up with 700c reference in wrong spot in the sentence. It should say... "36h, that I want to build up with new 700c rims." As Bianchigirl's copy edit post implies, hubs are rim diameter agnostic. Assuming compatible number of holes and using correct spoke length, you can match same hub to different diameter rims.
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^^^^^^Ah.., I just read that totally wrong. Please ignore me.
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^ +1 on rush finally being "indicted" (per neil peart) into the rock n roll hall of fame. if you haven't been watching these yearly presentations on hbo, you're missing out.

and +1 on sun m13 ii rims with campy record hubs, sapim db spokes ($0.40/ea from danscomp.com), and 23c paselas. don't be afraid to haggle a bit with ebay sellers on their rims shipping cost.

- 1 on black rims.
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Originally Posted by DOS View Post
But am hoping the C&V folks might have some thoughts on options with the understated classic box look I am looking for.
I keep all my collectible racers with their tubular wheel sets, and I try and give them all a clincher wheel set for practicality. Yes often two wheel set's per bike but some lesser ridden do share. I take a vintage clincher wheelset, not a pug uo8 wheel set more a pug pfn10 rust free wheel set, and take the rim usually mavic and spokes. The hubs should match the campagnolo so the spokes will fit.

My opinion on spoke reuse my differ from others here, but enjoy the opinion from some who lives in a foreign country where my local bike shops don't sell tools and laugh at the idea of riding a none modern bike. I brought spokes for a wheel once, but I do this so often now I can't afford to buy spokes every time.

* doesn't break bank
* can run 23mm or 25mm
* graphics classic worth
* rim profile classic
* colour is classic
* your not buying an old rim, your taking a wheel so you can check how true it is!
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Originally Posted by eschlwc View Post
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- 1 on black rims.
I am drawn to the classic look of the polished rims but black or gray (MA40, eg) would probably be more period correct for a mid 80s paramount. I think original wheels were campy tubular rims in black. I have the hubs currently built into gray 80s Campy clincher rims, but one got taco'd in an accident. I now have one campy rim and one hub built into an old MA40 hoop so they look similar (different labels, both gray). But neither rim is in great shape and the MA40 has a flat spot. What I do want is the classic box rim look, whether I to polished silver or black.
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Velocity a-23 makes a very nice set up if you want dark. That or the Open pro
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Sun ringle CR18's.........FTW



CR18



...........if you buy them from AE Bike, and set up an online account, they'll send you two for about 55 bucks, free shipping.

I just bought four, and two of them are going on a Campagnolo phone dial hub set. I am a fan of wider tires, and think
700x25 or 700x28 tires are just swell, and have been known to ride long distances on the infamous 27x1 1/4 tire size.
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Have been looking at those Sun M13-II's to mate with some old Campy hubs....NICE, about $21 a pop, cheapest I could find, though since I was looking, my computer threw up a GREAT deal on those same rims from Sears (of all places) for a great price of $71 per rim!!! No wonder Sears is failing!
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I like those rims. In fact, I like them so much I bought a pair I didn't need. Let me know if interested Rubberlegs.
They're 27's, though.
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Hplus son TB14 . Good looking rim, less money than an open pro.
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Originally Posted by Michael Angelo View Post
Hplus son TB14 . Good looking rim, less money than an open pro.
I was going to suggest the H+ Son rim, not everyone has the 36's though.
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Originally Posted by Michael Angelo View Post
Hplus son TB14 . Good looking rim, less money than an open pro.

These are very nice. I just built up some Record high-flange hubs with the Velo-Orange Raid rims, they look great.

https://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...-rim-700c.html
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+1 on the TB14s.
OR
go early mid 80's racer look with a semi aero rim like the polished A23 with those aero spokes that can fit in regular hubs for a racy look 80's look. A23 stickers come off.
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