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What I don't like about Campagnolo

Old 06-14-13, 05:48 PM
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What I don't like about Campagnolo

Close your eye's and what do you see?
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Nothing. That is, I don't see anything with my eyes closed.

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The fact I don't own any of it.
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It's hard to spell.
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Really? Because at this time the one on the right sucks.


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I like campy, price of mint old stuff is high thought but who cares. I've got a couple c-record sets with deltas on bikes or waiting. I also own shimano da sets as well. Even though shimano kills campy in functionality, there's just something nice about the way campagnolo is styled. And in the end it's all about looks right?!?
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Old 06-14-13, 06:19 PM
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Okay, I have to mention that all my bikes are Campy. What I do like is the Italian quality of:

Design, material, finish, value and durability. As an investment, there's none better, when the economy is in the up swing, so is Campy. Even when the economy is swinging down, Campy still maintains it's value. Buying Campy new is not my way, that's buying high. Like the stock market, buy low, sell high. Let the Campagnolo prices jump, so will my collection. Any thoughts? Thank you, Mike
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Old 06-14-13, 06:29 PM
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I have 2 NR bikes, for the period they were the most reliable, dependable and race-worthy although costly to procure.
When 1st gen Shimano DA indexing came out Campi was left behind and never considered by me again on a performance/price index.

That said my 70's NR tech just keeps working and my Record hubs are my smoothest after decades of service.
It's just bicycle parts.

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Old 06-14-13, 06:42 PM
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"It's not as good but I like it better."

No rhyme, no reason. I just like it more.
It doesn't work as well as others.
It doesn't cost less than others.
It isn't as light, or easy to install, or easy to clean.
It has some features, even the new components, that are stupid.

I can offer few objective reasons for prefering it.
But I like it better.

If Shimano had hidden their STI cables years ago, and made their STI's rebuildable, we may not even be having these conversations.

Doesn't matter, I like it better.

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Originally Posted by gioscinelli View Post
Close your eye's and what do you see?
black with spots of bright yellow, probably from the light coming in through the window, but it could be a brain tumor, though i feel no pain.

i prefer campy to vintage suntour, especially since the former's nr line is cheaper than cyclone. s600 is almost equally brilliant, especially the arabesque design and cool headsets.
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Originally Posted by gioscinelli View Post
Close your eye's and what do you see?
This
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I see the same as Velognome with my eyes closed, except a more R rated version.
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My first car was a Fiat, back in the 60's, so C&V now. Tell me me again about Italian "material, finish, value and durability." I'm ok with "design." It does look good!
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My first car was also a Fiat, an x/19 at that, never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by Velognome View Post
This
Originally Posted by Kidballistic View Post
I see the same as Velognome with my eyes closed, except a more R rated version.
I swear I saw her first.

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My first car was a Fiat, back in the 60's, so C&V now. Tell me me again about Italian "material, finish, value and durability." I'm ok with "design." It does look good!
Originally Posted by Kidballistic View Post
My first car was also a Fiat, an x/19 at that, never had a problem.
I had an X-19, and later, a Rally with the racing stripe. They didn't exactly make me love Italian bikes, or even Italian cars, but they were fun as all get out. Everything broke, but I sort of expected that.

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I had one bike with Campy Chorus, but removed it and replaced with Shimano Ultegra/Dura Ace. The reason? Mechanics around don't seem to be able to work on it. My Chorus 10-speed group never shifted well after the first couple thousand miles. It ate up chains like they were Oreos, and I would end up replacing them at great expense because it didn't shift right unless you also replaced the cassette.

Putting Shimano parts on all of my bikes was the best equipment decision I ever made. Everything is compatible and the parts always work and last forever. My cassettes seem to last forever, and I easily get 5,000+ miles on chains. My bikes always shift perfect.

The one good thing I can say about my Chorus group is that it was easy to sell. After 10,000 miles of use, I sold it for well more than half what I paid, very simply. I can agree with about that regarding Campy parts -- they hold their value very well.
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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
..... and my Record hubs are my smoothest after decades of service.
It's just bicycle parts.

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I bought some used wheels last year (?) with Record hubs, made in the early 80s. I was amazed at how smooth they spin, like they're just now getting broken in or something. Actually, most of my Campagnolo is from the 80s, except my NR FD is '72 or earlier (flat cage lip & no circlip). Hey what are all the cool kids running for chains now, on their 2x5 Italian rides? My chain's too short now, the way I wanted it set up.
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Their spin was probably awesome back in the'80s when new. The '70s versions were consistently better than nearly all others.

But you need to overhaul them once in a while for preservation. If you assume they're still pristine because they are smooth, you won't be removing the old, dried, dirty grease, and it can become abrasive. Hard to feel, but it can mean the end of your bearing cups.

With an overhaul once a year, they should still look like new.
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
My first car was a Fiat, back in the 60's, so C&V now. Tell me me again about Italian "material, finish, value and durability." I'm ok with "design." It does look good!
Back in the days F-I-A-T was an acronym for "Fix It Again 'Tonio"
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Over the years I guess I've owned Campy something of everything except headsets. Never had a complete group on any one bike. Still, I have to say that I LOVE NR hubs and skewers and similar models (Tipo for example). I own three sets of NR right now, and they can bury me with the things.

As for the rest of it, I'll not be hunting down what I don't have because of the cost. I'll default on Dura Ace ... which is also dear. So, I often fall back on 600/Ultegra.

I say ... if you have the dosh and the kids have left home, go for it. I have one Italian frame that I'd love to see kitted out in full campy. Maybe ... maybe one day??? But I'm not knashing my teeth in anguish
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It makes me a bit of a snob. Leave the bit out I guess. I really like the shimano 600, especially the arabesque and tricolore (index rocks), but when one of my bikes has campy stuff on except for the brakeset, the bike is just not finished. It feels like the Weinmann calipers (carrera, very nice I might add) and shimano levers are subordinate and not worthy of the rest of the bike.

Fortunately I got a lot of it now so I can be proud of myself. Said the smug idiot.
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I like the way Campagnolo looks, feels and operates. Also, you can repair/overhaul most any campagnolo part ever made. Sure, the early index stuff was a pain, but the modern equipment is as good or better than the competition.
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Shifter and derailleur pairings i can live with, but the proprietary (and holy wow priced) cassette and chainring standards drive me apey.
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My daily rider Centurion rocks Shimagnolo. Campy shifters are rebuildable; Shimano derailleurs are disposable. Shiftmate in between. Also runs Shimano cranks and Campy brakes, but the former is OE and the latter was a lucky buy on ebay.

I find the functionality of Shimagnolo fits well with that bike. I stripped the paint and had it powdercoated industrial clear. It has a strong green-bronze color, but you can see the brass around the lugs. This bike is about the beauty of functionality, and Shimagnolo fits that style perfectly.
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