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Old 06-23-13, 11:11 AM
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Need help with a fake Raleigh

Picked up this "Team Raleigh" earlier this week for the Stronglight triple that was on it. PO had said in his ad that it wasn't a real Raleigh, but he couldn't remember what it was. It has a few distinguishing features, but I haven't been able to match them yet. The only other bike I've found with the same lug shape so far is a Motoconfort.
It's not high-end, but it's my size so I'm thinking that with an AW hub, dark green paint and gold-lined lugs it might be a nice tourer.

Any idea what it could be? TIA.











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the fixed cup is Flandria proprietary.

could be a clue...
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Flandria? Mmmmmm .... Thanks, Juvela.
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VAR makes/made a jaw for their fixed cup tool specifically to fit this unique cup.
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I think you are right. I just googled a few Flandria's and those lugs and pump pegs appear there too. Cool! I have a couple of Superia's and a Flandria was really kind of missing ...
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and now you can add it to the "show us your Belgian bikes" thread!
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Good point! Will do. (It could use a bump)
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wow, that was some quick CSI'ing. Looks like a nice frame for a fast and upright project.
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wow, that was some quick CSI'ing. Looks like a nice frame for a fast and upright project.
Yes, the sleuthing power of C&V is enormous! I'm still unsure what to do with it. 700c wheels look a little lost in this frame, so maybe 27" with fenders? Some red Bluemels maybe?
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Originally Posted by Chuckk
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/664815-Another-Raleigh-ID-request

Not the same starting point, but similar in work to my buddy's Schwaleigh!
Yeah, I love these challenges.
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there is another one of these in a new thread:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...dria-Road-Bike

this machine has a separate tubular seatstay bridge for rack mounting. have not seen this arrangement before.

according to another recent thread machine is likely to have been contructed in Portugal.
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Originally Posted by juvela
there is another one of these in a new thread:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...dria-Road-Bike

this machine has a separate tubular seatstay bridge for rack mounting. have not seen this arrangement before.

according to another recent thread machine is likely to have been contructed in Portugal.
Thanks. Yes, I read that bit about Portugal. Now where's that "Show us your Portugese bikes" thread?
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Picked up this "Team Raleigh" earlier this week for the Stronglight triple that was on it. PO had said in his ad that it wasn't a real Raleigh, but he couldn't remember what it was. It has a few distinguishing features, but I haven't been able to match them yet. The only other bike I've found with the same lug shape so far is a Motoconfort.
It's not high-end, but it's my size so I'm thinking that with an AW hub, dark green paint and gold-lined lugs it might be a nice tourer.

Any idea what it could be? TIA.











how long is the spindle.
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Originally Posted by Dustin sterling
how long is the spindle.
Measured it in situ: 123 mm. Don't know what the taper is, though.

EDIT: took the spindle out and checked: it's a Stronglight. It is marked '125' and measures close to 124 mm. Other markings are 'A' and 'S' on one side and '2' and '25' on the other.
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original spindle would have been cottered with a satin chrome finish and marked in the centre "FLANDRIA MADE IN PORTUGAL" in quite small letters.

shell BSC thread & 70mm in width.

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Shell is indeed 70mm. My spindle measurements:

A: 30mm
B: 56mm
C: 38mm
D: 124mm
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Yes, the sleuthing power of C&V is enormous! I'm still unsure what to do with it. 700c wheels look a little lost in this frame, so maybe 27" with fenders? Some red Bluemels maybe?
Black Bluemel Populars.
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Originally Posted by clubman
Black Bluemel Populars.
Black would look good. Prefer the Club Specials' shape, though, with the ridge.
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