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Could we use this on our bike frames???

Old 07-18-13, 03:19 PM
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Could we use this on our bike frames???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZrjX...ature=youtu.be
.....Like maybe spray it into the frame tubes to keep moisture/dampness out??
I believe Rustoluem sells it as part of their product line
Looks to be real cool stuff!
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Insides of fenders, cotton bar tape, I don't know if it wouldn't leave a weird looking residue on the frame, though. Now, if it would come in a non aerosol, inner frame protection would be an awesome use for this product.,,,,BD
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Old 07-18-13, 04:53 PM
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Now that is some amazing stuff. I can think of dozens of applications. None just right now but, I need some of that stuff!
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I'd q-tip and treat every single bolt on each bike.
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Old 07-18-13, 06:45 PM
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Old news... I had a wife way back when who was also never wet.
C'mon, someone had to go there...
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I like when they suggest you spray the inside of a case of beer instead of using a cooler... um, that's not really a huge time or money savings for me or anyone else I know. Neat product though, wonder how well it holds up over time.
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I think someone started a thread on cyclocross about spraying the whole bike with it, to keep mud from sticking.
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Originally Posted by wesmamyke View Post
I think someone started a thread on cyclocross about spraying the whole bike with it, to keep mud from sticking.
it looks interesting for sure, but...what happens if you get it on the tires...brakes...saddle...?
I also wonder about wear-away...and just what IS this stuff? I couldn't get sound with the video, just a bunch of chemical engineers moving lips but not saying anything for me...plenty of footage of people spraying that kitty box and dripping fudge sauce on the white sneakers...FUN!
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Originally Posted by unworthy1 View Post
it looks interesting for sure, but...what happens if you get it on the tires...brakes...saddle...?
I also wonder about wear-away...and just what IS this stuff? I couldn't get sound with the video, just a bunch of chemical engineers moving lips but not saying anything for me...plenty of footage of people spraying that kitty box and dripping fudge sauce on the white sneakers...FUN!
I guess like oil or grease you use on your bike.................. you just avoid getting it on your tires, brakes and saddle.....
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I've read up on it some more, seems to be nano particles of silicone. Apparently it can both wear off as well as be deliberately cleaned off and supposedly the hydrophobic stuff can be renewed on worn-away surfaces by re-spraying the top-coat (part 2). Makes me wonder what exactly the part one is and what it does...they are of course pretty close-mouthed about this. Also have a urethane base-coat version (only for approved Industrial customers, not sold in stores) that claims to be far more "permanent" as well as UV resistant (apparently a problem with the Home Depot/Rustoleum version) and scratch resistant...I'm very interested and will keep reading.
It may take a whistle-blower to leak some of the classified data so all my questions are answered...or just a Popular Science write-up.
I'd say treat this more like silicone rather than oil or grease until all the facts are in.
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yup, some guy over at Cyclocross already did it, treated half of the bike with it (lengthwise). The results blew me away.
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Apparently, silicone is very unwelcome in environments where paint is being applied & expected to stick. I can think of one major automobile OEM that goes to great lengths to ensure that their suppliers do not introduce any silicone into their supplied products.
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since inquiring minds want to know (or I just want to speculate) my further research leads me to believe that the basecoat is some kind of universal clear (maybe acrylic) that sticks to just about everything and is required to provide something for the nano-silicone itself (part 2) to stick onto or into (since the whole idea here is that stuff is more "teflon" than teflon and would roll right off anything you sprayed).
I think the part 1 clear is allowed to nearly cure and when you spray nano-silicone on it the acetone carrier solvent lets the stuff "bite" just enough into the clear to attach. Obviously both parts will be subject to wear due to abrasion and any other deterioration (UV, chemical) that affects the clearcoat. as long as the clear is intact you should be able to spray acetone/nano-silicone on it and get it to bite in and renew the worn-off silicone; once it's all worn off you'd need to completely strip (and that means ALL the nano-silicone completely off) and re-coat using both parts.
There's the rub: anybody who does restoration of furniture or auto paint knows what a headache silicone treatment on the surface is to getting good results...this nano-silicone probably multiplies that hassle by 10-fold.

Edit: old's'cool beat me to that idea, but yes, we agree...you can't paint over any variety of silicone; on a car or similar hard non-porous surface (bicycle frame) they make really strong solvent blends that take it off; on wood and similar porous surfaces you have much more work to get it out.

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