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Old 08-01-13, 03:24 PM
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Anyone else built a Klunker lately?

I had a 58 Schwinn American frame laying around (doesn't everyone?) and enough spare parts to pull it off. I even had a set of the repop Schwinn Westwind S-7's I bought for the restoration that was planned for this bike. Well, I forgot those plans, strictly because of the amount of seatpost it takes to get my leg extension?? If I run across a "king size" frame for sale, I will restore that. Until then, this sucker is done! I have no idea where the original cranks went, but they were as rusty as the frame anyway. I was thinking of adding a hanger and an RD, but these frames had no brake holes, front or rear. The only thing I spent money on were the grips/donuts. About $11.50, and a bunch of grease. Both actual, and elbow.,,,,BD

The clever chainguard treatment popped into my head as I was installing it, hehe. Schwinn Is American, No more.





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Ha, awesome. You going to ride some trails with that thing?
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NOT with these tires, NO way! I plowed the front wheel earlier riding in the grass. I made a good save though.,,,,BD
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Oooooh, I do have a set of stem/crossbar pads somewhere? They're the later style checkered nylon with velcro though. One this old would have glossy vinyl with silver snaps.,,,,BD
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Old 08-01-13, 04:04 PM
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I put together a 41 Schwinn DX a few years ago with the intent to keep things era correct to 1978. In my haste I cut corners in a few places and it always bugged me. Now I am slowly putting together a Prewar C frame and keeping everything true to form. Just about there with parts. currently lacing some old drum brakes to a set of first generation Ukai rims.

Out for a ride, smaller frame fits my wife better than it will ever fit me:



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Just had the steer tube extended. Next step, lacing wheels. My three oldest Mtb's:

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The main drawback of the middleweight frames is tire clearance. Finding a knobby tire in the S-7 size will be next to impossible too, if they even make anything other than street tread, for a long dead tire bead size. I am also going to rob the bars once I get the chrome mystery frame from my buddy. You know the chrome one I posted about a month or two ago, with Campy rear drops welded to BMX plates. That one will get hub brakes, Brooks saddle, and maybe a set of chrome "Landing gear" forks my buddy traded off. He gave them to the guy I traded for the Geoffrey Butler frame.,,,,BD

That build looks AWESOME so far! can't wait to see it all done up!
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I've got a newer Schwinn Jaguar that I'm planning to do a klunker inspired build on. It won't be totally authentic, but I got it cheap.
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I have a nice set of 7 speed wheels, but again it comes back to the brake issue. "Maybe" I could convince myself to weld some brake posts on this frame. Something that precise makes me nervous, though it would be SO cool to have this bike geared. OH hell, I should just wait for the mystery frame.,,,,BD

It's sitting in the attic above my buddies garage.. I just need money, which may be solved tomorrow.

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I've thought about doing a geared klunker ever since I found an b/b axel to convert 1 piece b/b to 3 piece.
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I don't think "klunker" is in my vocabulary, but the words "high end Italian", "C-record", "Dura Ace", "NOS" and "lightweight" are.
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Drum brake, Moots mounts, Schwinn clamp on brakes, coaster brakes, canti mounts welded on. There are a few vintage options and none really work great.

The C will be grafted with Cyclone ders. TA cranks, VDC bars Ashtabula stem etc.

I kinda draw my line with aluminum rims. In 78 Ukai and Araya introduced 26" rims for the BMX cruiser class. A huge improvement for rim brakes and weight savings.

With a little bit of patience vintage knobby tires can be found for these. Took me about a year, but I was able to find a set of era correct 26" Uniroyal Knobbies for the red bike. Never looked for S-7 size before.

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I don't think "klunker" is in my vocabulary, but the words "high end Italian", "C-record", "Dura Ace", "NOS" and "lightweight" are.
I like all bikes. You have to be shuddering at the use of those Pista cranks on that old Schwinn then.
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I like all bikes. You have to be shuddering at the use of those Pista cranks on that old Schwinn then.
One of the many reasons to love that bike! I would love to do a Varsity in NR or SR simply for the reaction!
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Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13 View Post
I don't think "klunker" is in my vocabulary, but the words "high end Italian", "C-record", "Dura Ace", "NOS" and "lightweight" are.

Well, they make vintage mountain bikes that are right up your alley too?

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And as far as S7 tires, this is pretty much the only thing available. There are the repops Schwinn put out a few years ago, like the ones I have on it. Neither are good for dirt, however.,,,,BD

https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Street.../dp/B000AO9ZDO

These might be a "tiny" bit better in dirt, but not a whole lot.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26x1-3-4-NEW...-/200948730509
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Every so often, I think it might be cool to have a cruiser-type bike, but the urge passes. I like my road bikes too much.
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I do. But more of a cruiser BMX build with a 60's Schwinn canti frame.
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Desire, Space, time..... For most of us there are only so many hooks in the garage, by all means we need to decide what will hang from them.
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I had a Schwinn American for a while. It was incredibly heavy! Getting it onto the work stand was a strain.

The original Klunkers were pushed up Repack Hill and only ridden down, so the weight was not a drawback.
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Nope, and the only thing keeping me is the lack of a good frame. Old middleweights just aren't available here in yurp, and I don't want to settle for a ugly modern chinese cruiser frame with crude MIG welds. Your bike looks amazing though , and Aemmer, yours too. Love your collection.
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Really? A completely steel plain gauge tubed bike is heavy? I love a lightweight road bike as much as any of you, but it does get boring having only one type of bike. Doesn't it? I am sure pushing those heavy klunkers up a hill was certainly a drawback. Me thinks you guys are thinking too much, and those thoughts are coming out a little snooty. Just saying.,,,,BD
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I knew I had some pics. Sadly it just sits in storage since the 2 speed kickback hub is slipping.







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Here's my project bike. I did a quick mock up last night, but have to make a few decisions. I'm not sure that I like the bullmoose bars. I may go with some vintage risers, or the original cruiser bars with a shortened grip section. I've got Suntour power ratchet thumbies, Dia compe 980 brakes and levers, a Suntour 7 GT rear derailleur, a set of vintage Araya wheels, and a vintage SR fluted crank. I still need the BB converter.

While I really appreciate some of the faithfully created clunker replicas, I am not looking to do that. I am just looking for a cheap project that I can get creative with and that uses some of the surplus parts that have been hanging around. I chose this frame because it was $50 for the bike, it has 135mm spacing, a derailleur hanger, and canti bosses. When the bike's done, I'm going to put on some jeans and work boots, and go do some skids and wheelies!
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Really? A completely steel plain gauge tubed bike is heavy? I love a lightweight road bike as much as any of you, but it does get boring having only one type of bike. Doesn't it? I am sure pushing those heavy klunkers up a hill was certainly a drawback. Me thinks you guys are thinking too much, and those thoughts are coming out a little snooty. Just saying.,,,,BD
You're coming off a bit sarcastic and I see no reason for it.

I put a huge Wald basket on my American and gave it to the custodians at the local middle school. They use bikes to get around the campus.
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Whining about the weight of a bike, on a thread that is not even about lightweight bikes in the least, will bring out a little sarcasm in some people. I apologize for that.,,,,BD
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