Raleigh Competition
08-07-13, 04:47 PM
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Raleigh Competition
Got this on CL for $80 today. Looks original except for steel rims, schwinn handlebar. No dings or damage! Does anyone know it this is the proper stem? Sorry for the bad pics I have to go to work.
Thanks
George
Thanks
George
Update: The brake lever says
Weinmann, the hoods say Carlton, looks like the schwinn brakes were just added onto the
originals! Need to pull the tape off to look for any writing on the handlebars.Last edited by geontemt; 08-07-13 at 05:08 PM.
08-07-13, 05:21 PM
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That's an incredible deal, even with the wheel switch. I don't usually think in these terms because I don't flip bikes or parts, but the rear derailer alone is worth what you paid. I can't tell you the year from the fuzzy pictures, but it doesn't appear to have Capella lugs, so that eliminates 1973. I believe that is the original stem.
Some Competition frames were put together nicely, but many were not. I hope you got a nice one,
There are more here. You have to ask BD why he calls them Carlton Raleigh Competitions. They're Raleighs. All of the higher end Raleighs were built in the Carlton factory that they bought in 1960.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...h-Competitions
Some Competition frames were put together nicely, but many were not. I hope you got a nice one,
There are more here. You have to ask BD why he calls them Carlton Raleigh Competitions. They're Raleighs. All of the higher end Raleighs were built in the Carlton factory that they bought in 1960.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...h-Competitions
08-07-13, 05:22 PM
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The RD is worth a small fortune. Nice score.
Here is a poor picture of what the stem should be:
Here is a poor picture of what the stem should be:
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08-07-13, 05:33 PM
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It does appear to be mostly original, with the exception of the wheels (what hubs are they?), the turkey levers, the bars, and possibly the saddle. Originally this would have come with tubular rims/tires (sew-ups that glue to the rim). Maybe someone just rebuilt the wheels with the steel rims? Should have used better aluminum rims, but you should be able to find some 700c clincher wheels for not too much money. Nice deal! Hope it fits you.
08-07-13, 05:36 PM
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Great find. That stem is correct, as are the Huret Jubilee derailleurs and shifters. Looks like someone added the turkey levers. Those came with tubulars, so a clincher swap would not be uncommon. Also appears to be the correct TA crank. Mine came with a Brooks B17N saddle. I would say a 1974.
08-07-13, 05:41 PM
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My best guess is 1974, if not, a 1975. I'm not sure about that, though.
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Hell of a deal! I think I remember mine having turkey wings when I first got it. Let me try to find the pic.,,,,BD
Yep, here it is?
Yep, here it is?
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Geontemp: You got an incredible deal on this bike. It would be a bargain at 3 times the price. Congrats for finding a seller to exploit. This appears to be a 74 to me as well, primarily because of the sloping fork crown. The lugs are not right though so it may be a 75. I was thinking that the 75s had half-chromed stays, though. The stem appears to be correct. The bars would have been either GB or Raleigh. The hubs would have been high flange, too.
Still a very good deal.
Still a very good deal.
08-07-13, 06:21 PM
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Mine has the same Nervex lugs. Wonder what the serial number is on this one? Makes me wonder how far apart mine and the OP's are?,,,,BD
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Very nice! Be sure to lose the pie plate when you replace the rear wheel.
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
That's an incredible deal, even with the wheel switch. I don't usually think in these terms because I don't flip bikes or parts, but the rear derailer alone is worth what you paid. I can't tell you the year from the fuzzy pictures, but it doesn't appear to have Capella lugs, so that eliminates 1973. I believe that is the original stem.
Some Competition frames were put together nicely, but many were not. I hope you got a nice one,
There are more here. You have to ask BD why he calls them Carlton Raleigh Competitions. They're Raleighs. All of the higher end Raleighs were built in the Carlton factory that they bought in 1960.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...h-Competitions
Some Competition frames were put together nicely, but many were not. I hope you got a nice one,
There are more here. You have to ask BD why he calls them Carlton Raleigh Competitions. They're Raleighs. All of the higher end Raleighs were built in the Carlton factory that they bought in 1960.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...h-Competitions
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Originally Posted by Matariki
Geontemp: You got an incredible deal on this bike. It would be a bargain at 3 times the price. Congrats for finding a seller to exploit. This appears to be a 74 to me as well, primarily because of the sloping fork crown. The lugs are not right though so it may be a 75. I was thinking that the 75s had half-chromed stays, though. The stem appears to be correct. The bars would have been either GB or Raleigh. The hubs would have been high flange, too.
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Yes perfect size. This has been on CL for close to 2 weeks & I spent 3 days thinking about it before I contacted the seller. It was a very poor pic with no discription other than the model and poor seller comunication. In contrast, when I met the seller he was a cool guy who was just wanting cash for a new project, we talked about bikes for a while before I left.
08-08-13, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by John E
Very nice! Be sure to lose the pie plate when you replace the rear wheel.
Super find..
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Originally Posted by Bikedued
Sorry, I should have said Carlton BUILT Raleigh Competitions? Is that better? I'm pretty sure 98% pf the members who frequent this part of the forum knew exactly what I meant. The later GS models have no connection with Carlton, correct?,,,,BD
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I have a Carlton BUILT Raleigh Super Course from 1980. I know there is a cutoff for the British made Competition GS models, I am just foggy on it. Later meaning the last years they were built. Sorry I wasn't clear again.
,,,,BD
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