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Old 08-22-13, 07:41 PM
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Vintage, or just dirty?

I bought a Nishiki Pueblo road bike a few days ago at a nearby pawnshop. It only cost $20 because the owner didn't think he'd be able to sell it for more and he didn't want to clean it up. It works great and rides smooth. I was wondering if it's vintage or not? I tried looking this bike up on Google, but I couldn't find anything on it. There are new Nishiki Pueblo MTB and road bikes that dominated my vintage search so I stopped.

Here's the pic that was advertised before I bought the bike:


It's pretty grimy, dusty and has some rust. I'm going to clean it up. What do you guys think - is it vintage, or is it just dirty?

Thanks, everyone.
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Looks like maybe a mid to late 90s model. Can't tell from the picture what year or whether the frame is cro moly or high tensile steel. Either way, should clean up nice as a beater, student bike, or commuter.
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$20 for a bike that only needs a little elbow grease? - good deal!
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It's definitely from the "dirty vintage" era , and needs a little tlc to reveal it's puritan soul. Clean it and post good detailed pics. It's my sworn duty to suggest losing the frame crushing kickstand but others disagree.
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Originally Posted by MRT2 View Post
Looks like maybe a mid to late 90s model. Can't tell from the picture what year or whether the frame is cro moly or high tensile steel. Either way, should clean up nice as a beater, student bike, or commuter.
There's a sticker on it that says, "High Tensile Tubing" - I wasn't sure what it meant. I guess it's not the best bike for distance riding?
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Originally Posted by BlueMidnight View Post
There's a sticker on it that says, "High Tensile Tubing" - I wasn't sure what it meant. I guess it's not the best bike for distance riding?
It doesn't mean it is a bad bike for its time, but probably entry level. High tensile steel is heavier than cro moly. , So probably not the bike to take for fast club rides. Still better than the junk you find at Wal Mart and it only cost you $20 and, maybe, some degreaser, new grease, and chain lube.

Edit. It looks more like a mountain bike than a road bike. Are those 26" wheels?
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Originally Posted by clubman View Post
It's definitely from the "dirty vintage" era , and needs a little tlc to reveal it's puritan soul. Clean it and post good detailed pics. It's my sworn duty to suggest losing the frame crushing kickstand but others disagree.
Yeah, I'll post pics after I clean it up. I'll make sure to post pics before I sand it and give it new paint so you can see its original stuff. I'll even post pics afterwards when I'm really done with it. I'm definitely going to take that kickstand off.. that was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw it.
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Old 08-22-13, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by markk900 View Post
$20 for a bike that only needs a little elbow grease? - good deal!
Yup yup! I was actually shocked when I saw the price. The little blue tag said $40, and that's still cheap.. what a bargain!
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Old 08-22-13, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MRT2 View Post
It doesn't mean it is a bad bike for its time, but probably entry level. High tensile steel is heavier than cro moly. , So probably not the bike to take for fast club rides. Still better than the junk you find at Wal Mart and it only cost you $20 and, maybe, some degreaser, new grease, and chain lube.

Edit. It looks more like a mountain bike than a road bike. Are those 26" wheels?
Hmm. I don't think that's a MTB frame? The wheels are definitely made to ride on the road, not the trails.
I didn't measure anything yet so I don't know what size the wheels are. They do look like 26" wheels, huh?
I'm new to road bikes, so entry level will be fine for a while.

I'm hoping it's not a mountain bike.. I was looking for a distance bike. Newbie mistake?
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Old 08-22-13, 08:38 PM
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Hmm. I don't think that's a MTB frame? The wheels are definitely made to ride on the road, not the trails.
I didn't measure anything yet so I don't know what size the wheels are. They do look like 26" wheels, huh?
I'm new to road bikes, so entry level will be fine for a while.

I'm hoping it's not a mountain bike.. I was looking for a distance bike. Newbie mistake?
It is an MTB, but who cares? Read this thread.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ar-Conversions
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Lots of people put road tires, or slicks on mountain bikes. They are still slower and heavier than road bikes, but perhaps more versatile. How far are you looking to ride?
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It is an MTB, but who cares? Read this thread.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ar-Conversions
That's awesome! Thanks for the link.
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Lots of people put road tires, or slicks on mountain bikes. They are still slower and heavier than road bikes, but perhaps more versatile. How far are you looking to ride?
This bike really doesn't seem heavy, and it's pretty big. I actually thought it was lightweight.

I want to build up stamina to ride everywhere/very far. I can't name the amount of miles because I want to go as far as I can.
But for right now, I'll probably only ride about 1-10 miles/day. My stamina isn't too bad. If I really end up going far, and if this bike slows me down, I guess I'll find another one.

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Originally Posted by BlueMidnight View Post
This bike really doesn't seem heavy, and it's pretty big. I actually thought it was lightweight.

I want to build up stamina to ride everywhere/very far. I can't name the amount of miles because I want to go as far as I can.
But for right now, I'll probably only ride about 1-10 miles/day. My stamina isn't too bad. If I really end up going far, and if this bike slows me down, I guess I'll find another one.
My guess would be about 30, maybe 32 lbs. Heavy compared to a modern road bike, but still lighter than, say, a 70s era Schwinn Varsity 10 speed.

1 to 10 miles isn't all that far. An old mountain bike with slicks should be fine. Until about 2 weeks ago, my son rode an old Trek 800 mountain bike with slicks everywhere, up to about 30 miles.

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1 to 10 miles isn't all that far. An old mountain bike with slicks should be fine. Until about 2 weeks ago, my son rode an old Trek 800 mountain bike with slicks everywhere, up to about 30 miles.
I know that 1-10 miles is actually not far at all, but that's how far I think my stamina will last.
But.. now that I think of it again, maybe I can handle more than 10 miles, but probably not much more.
Can I switch any parts that will make it a better road bike?
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Originally Posted by BlueMidnight View Post
I know that 1-10 miles is actually not far at all, but that's how far I think my stamina will last.
But.. now that I think of it again, maybe I can handle more than 10 miles, but probably not much more.
Can I switch any parts that will make it a better road bike?
Not that would make much sense, IMO.

Edit. Maybe take off that generator and if you ride at night, replace with a modern lighting system.

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Originally Posted by MRT2 View Post
Not that would make much sense, IMO.

Edit. Maybe take off that generator and if you ride at night, replace with a modern lighting system.
Is the generator that thing hooked to the back tire? The light in the front is hooked up to it, I think.
I was going to remove that anyway. Thanks!
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the nishiki pueblo was made from 1993 to 98.

It is definitely a mountain bike not a roadie.

approx $300 new.

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Originally Posted by catonec View Post
the nishiki pueblo was made from 1993 to 98.

It is definitely a mountain bike not a roadie.

approx $300 new.

https://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...e#.UhbWrz-gsfE
So, it's a low-end MTB frame. But my frame isn't that thick..
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So, it's a low-end MTB frame. But my frame isn't that thick..
I assume by "thick" you are referring to the diameter of your tubing.

Aluminum tubes are indeed much larger than steel tubes.

Mountain bikes were once made from steel like all other bikes even high end road racers.

aluminum is lighter, cheaper, and much stiffer vertically. it can be drawn out so it is walls are very thin but the diameter needs to increase to maintain the strength(?)
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I would have bought that in a heartbeat for that price... my size too.

It is entry level, but still will be a good durable bike to ride around on.

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don't worry about it being an MTB. I ride one as a commuter every chance I get. Fully loaded, it weighs about 48 lbs when I get on it to ride home. My trek is only 10.7 miles and I average nearly 16 mph. I get a nice work out. Stripped the bike is about 28 lbs but I need to hauls stuff.
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For that price and its condition I wouldn't be worried about the fact it is a MTB, for your purposes it should do very well. As others have said, "city" or road tires, usually slicks, will help you with ride quality. I'd clean everything thoroughly, replace the cables and probably the chain depending on its condition, check the brake blocks for their condition, replace if they are questionable, lose the generator light system and kick stand and have a shop check over the shifters and derailleurs. This bike will certainly allow you to ride and gain fitness very well, I take it this is your goal. Maybe a rear rack if you need to carry some small things around town would be a possibility, too.

You should look for one of the many books about bike maintenance that are out, learn how to do the basic things to keep the bike riding safely yourself, the satisfaction factor is big with this point for many, it is for me. If your town had a bike co-op go there and ask to learn about working on bikes and maybe volunteer to help them out, also.

Enjoy the ride and miles it gives you, welcome to BF and the C&V Forum.

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Originally Posted by catonec View Post
the nishiki pueblo was made from 1993 to 98.

It is definitely a mountain bike not a roadie.

approx $300 new.

https://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...e#.UhbWrz-gsfE
That bike is older than 1993. Thumb shifters were mostly phased out by then, and nearly every cantilever had transitioned to a lower profile version.

It does, however, look the 1986 nishiki pueblo in this thread- https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...from-80-s-90-s
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And don't worry about the amount of miles you ride. That metric can be one of the biggest road blocks to newish riders that try to compare themselves to others. If those other people have been riding for a long time they will be putting in some serious miles. The key to longevity in this sport is to have fun. Have fun and the miles will come.
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