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Venerable Jeunet commuter gets a bad-boy update

Old 09-16-13, 09:58 AM
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Venerable Jeunet commuter gets a bad-boy update

I've been riding my rehabbed and reinvented 1972 Jeunet 630 for three years now as my daily commuter, year round in most weather, except snow. And it lives locked up outside to a chain link fence, only getting shed privileges during snow storms. The Jeunet started out as a mid-range Reynolds 531 road bike (complete with shorty fenders!). I converted it into a pseudo porteur by adding a VO porteur rack and swapping out the bars and brake levers for VO porteur bars and Tektro inverse brake levers. I also swapped out the 52/42 TA double for a TA single with 45T chainring with single down tube shifter and added an old French chain guard and Honjo full coverage fenders. I kept the porteur bars inverted from their conventional orientation for a more upright ride. Dynamo lighting front and rear rounded out the package. I tried keeping the bike as French as possible without interfering with its practicality; most of the new parts are from Taiwan or Japan, but the bike still retains its French essence.

This is the last photo I took in this configuration, which served me really well for three years. The wide box on the rack is a pair of Bluemels fenders that I was dropping off at the PO to send to Photogravity.


Fully aware that the stem is of the "Death Stem" variety, I check it about once a year for hairline fractures below the insertion mark. I checked last week after noticing that the stem seemed to be making a clunking noise when I rode hard. Sure enough, there was a questionable fracture above the split, where there is a natural stress riser. Time to retire it. I had a few other French stems laying around, as well as a REAL porteur bar-- an original NOS Belleri porteur bar that I scooped up off of eBay over a year ago at a very reasonable price. I also had a couple of pairs of CLB alloy city levers. So why not bring back some more French-ness while doing a cockpit swap? While at it, I thought I'd try the porteur bars in their native orientation, downward, for a more aggressive riding position. The outcome is this:





After riding with this new configuration for a few days, all I can say is that I wish I had done this years ago! The more aggressive riding position makes the bike feel like a road bike, yet I'm upright enough that I have good visibility riding around in the city. And the CLB brake levers are far better suited to the MAFAC racers. The Tektro inverse levers had too much mechanical advantage and not enough travel, so my brakes would bottom out after the pads would wear a bit. With the CLB levers, there's gobs of travel.

And the bike just looks badder.

I love changes like this. They make you feel like you have an entirely new bike. I can almost feel now how this bike felt as a road bike. Almost makes me want to go full circle and turn it back into a road bike... almost.

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Old 09-16-13, 10:05 AM
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Sweet.. Looks much better now. I don't really like fully taped porteur/north road/etc. bars, so this is an improvement for sure.
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Old 09-16-13, 10:10 AM
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New look is badder. Small changes can sometimes make a big improvement. Congrats.
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Old 09-16-13, 10:18 AM
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I really like the new setup it seems more suited to the old Jeunet with the Jeunets slightly lower than standard BB and geomtry they seem more suited to lower bars . I have one setup in a light touring style they have great ride quality for commuting a bit of a road bike feel but still comfortablr enough your not bother every time you hit a bump.
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Old 09-16-13, 10:34 AM
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i road a 630 frame for years as my fixed commuter with moustache bars. It was a great riding bike. The changes look bad@$$ southpaw.
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Looks great...My only suggestion ditch the Brooks and get a Berthoud Mente, more comfy less sag
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Old 09-16-13, 10:47 AM
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+1. Not to mention, more "French-y".
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Old 09-16-13, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet View Post
Looks great...My only suggestion ditch the Brooks and get a Berthoud Mente, more comfy less sag
The B17 is plenty comfy, but I do think it looks out of place on a French bike (as does the Carradice saddlebag). It used to have an Ideale 80, but it was too narrowly shaped for an upright riding position. That saddle is long gone, but I'd like to find a wider Ideale to replace the Brooks.
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Originally Posted by southpawboston View Post
The B17 is plenty comfy, but I do think it looks out of place on a French bike
There is another French alternative, of course.

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Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
There is another French alternative, of course.

Ah yes, like a sawed off shotgun, the ol' 92. But is it narrow enough for a riding position with a 45-50 degree back angle? Seems this would be better suited on a bike with an upright riding position.
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try a 90.
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Old 09-16-13, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Italuminium View Post
try a 90.

I have a nice old 90 on my 76' PX10....very comfy saddle and just looks amazing. I might consider letting it go for the right price....just sayin'.
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I liked the other setup better. Inverted bars just look wrong to me.
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Old 09-16-13, 03:03 PM
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thanks for posting this fascinatin' mount! love that chainguard
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Ideale saddles are gorgeous on par with vintage Brooks. The only problem is Ideale are so darn expensive. The Berthoud Mente is made in France so it would be a good match. I love my Mente...it's the best darn wide leather saddle on the market...

The nose and tension bolt are placed differently than Brooks. The rivets are away from the behind so riding in the back of the saddle is possible. The cantle plate is more rounded so when the leather does form to your sits it won't cut into you like a Brooks.

I've forgiven Berthoud for the twisted rails on my previous saddle. The clamp provided by Wallbike solved the problem. However the narrow Gailber saddle didn't fit my needs. I swapped it out for a few vintage goodies. The mente is what the B17 offers but actually seems to be potentially longer lived.

The plastic cantle plate contours are much more comfortable than the Brooks. The natural leather finish looks superb and does develop a great stained patina with use.
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Uhmmmm....just "....locked up, outside to a chainlink fence.....??"
You sure that's a good thing to do with such a nice C&V bike??
Just don't say later that you were not warned!
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Originally Posted by southpawboston View Post
Ah yes, like a sawed off shotgun, the ol' 92. But is it narrow enough for a riding position with a 45-50 degree back angle? Seems this would be better suited on a bike with an upright riding position.
The same width as a B-17, Southpaw. 170 mm. Shorter, of course.
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Originally Posted by southpawboston View Post
I've been riding my rehabbed and reinvented 1972 Jeunet 630 for three years now as my daily commuter, year round in most weather, except snow. And it lives locked up outside to a chain link fence, only getting shed privileges during snow storms. .
That's too nice of a bike to live outside. Can't you spare some inside space?
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Originally Posted by southpawboston View Post
The B17 is plenty comfy, but I do think it looks out of place on a French bike (as does the Carradice saddlebag). It used to have an Ideale 80, but it was too narrowly shaped for an upright riding position. That saddle is long gone, but I'd like to find a wider Ideale to replace the Brooks.
Do you realize that some PX10s came from the factory with Brooks saddles? I don't think they're out of place on French bikes.
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Bike looks great! I have some porteur bars kicking around my basement. Maybe I should employ them on something
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Does look Bad A$$, but the old way looks more traditional and practical, 'cept for the reported issues with the inverse levers. I like both versions equally for different reasons
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I'm seriously considering building up a bike like this after seeing your Jeunet.
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Hey, I just changed the levers on my Porteur bars too. Different change though - guidonnet levers to SLR. Much better functionally, ergonomically and, to my eyes at least, aesthetically.

I like the Porteur bars and think they look better in the "correct" inverted attitude. Your bike looks great; I have to agree it deserves to sleep indoors.
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Originally Posted by DiegoFrogs View Post
I'm seriously considering building up a bike like this after seeing your Jeunet.
+1

trouble stirring...
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+1

trouble stirring...
Let's see...

Motobecane frame: check

Rigida/Atom wheelset: check

ATAX/Philippe porteur cockpit: check

Simplex RD: check

Ideale 90: check

Oops, I'm only a set of tires, a headset, some fenders and a seat post short of a build like this.
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