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05-20-20, 09:11 PM
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I've never really had one....but I found a few.
And my search for "whatever" is over, has been over. I'm not even that curious anymore.
It has been my good luck to have owned and ridden some nice bikes. As my mileage ticked up, other than sentimental value or artistic appreciation, I've come to value bikes that do what the builder intended. I doubt that has changed that much over time; bikes and components just got better. So, I have them, and doubt I'll have any more.
1. Wraith Hustle
2. Cipollini Logos
Everything else is pretty good, but these are the best I've ridden. I am no longer interested in better.
It has been my good luck to have owned and ridden some nice bikes. As my mileage ticked up, other than sentimental value or artistic appreciation, I've come to value bikes that do what the builder intended. I doubt that has changed that much over time; bikes and components just got better. So, I have them, and doubt I'll have any more.
1. Wraith Hustle
2. Cipollini Logos
Everything else is pretty good, but these are the best I've ridden. I am no longer interested in better.
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05-20-20, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
1. Wraith Hustle...
...Everything else is pretty good, but these are the best I've ridden. I am no longer interested in better.
...Everything else is pretty good, but these are the best I've ridden. I am no longer interested in better.
My top three have and probably will continue to change as the years go on. I've only been cycling for a decade and my tastes have evolved (and in some cases devolved) dramatically already. Just when I was deep into 1950s British bikes with fancy lugs and finally began acquiring some of that stuff, my lust for lugs became overpowered by a sense that I was missing out on more modern technology that would make my riding experience more rewarding. So now I'm back to staring at completely different bikes...
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05-21-20, 05:28 AM
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I’ve got a new project in the works. They all feel grail-like when they’re new projects.
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Jack Taylor Rough Stuff
Or at least a copy of one.
If I'm going to get into frame building, I might as build something I can't buy.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
I’ve got a new project in the works. They all feel grail-like when they’re new projects.
05-21-20, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilroy1988
My top three have and probably will continue to change as the years go on. I've only been cycling for a decade and my tastes have evolved (and in some cases devolved) dramatically already. Just when I was deep into 1950s British bikes with fancy lugs and finally began acquiring some of that stuff, my lust for lugs became overpowered by a sense that I was missing out on more modern technology that would make my riding experience more rewarding. So now I'm back to staring at completely different bikes...
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It took me almost 25 years to find this in my size and that includes goingto Italy back in the 90's to find the frame shop out of business. I found this 3 hours from my house 20 years later.
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12-13-20, 09:19 PM
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^^^^^ That gives new meaning to "Christmas bike" 
12-13-20, 09:35 PM
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I tend to like bikes not so much for racing pedigree but everyday usability and attractive design. Sacrilege? Ya.
Grail bike:
Also Japanese dreams:
Also one of these, the frame is chromoly and really nice. Would modify it of course:
Grail bike:
Also Japanese dreams:
Also one of these, the frame is chromoly and really nice. Would modify it of course:
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Cannot limit it to three.
there is a so close to a next purchase on eBay.fr right now... just too big, I could ride it but really want one 2cm smaller... and a cm shorter...
there is a so close to a next purchase on eBay.fr right now... just too big, I could ride it but really want one 2cm smaller... and a cm shorter...
12-13-20, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by scooterpants
There is dropped seat stay, there is wishbone seat stay, and then there is this- a lugged dropped seat stay with wishbone tendencies.
Super cool.
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12-14-20, 03:53 AM
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Well here's 3 of 5 Jim Merz customs.
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My 84 Bianchi
Retired and old it is too much of a bike for me. However is on the wall for my memories. I love how it looks.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I have the bikes I want - sure, there are more valuable and desired ones out there, but not really by me.
Stuff I'd still find room for:
Mooney, JP Weigle, Ephgrave, Jack Taylor, MXL.
The first three on the forum that jump to mind are GMG's Kvale, Scooper's 953 Waterford and cdm's Passoni.
Stuff I'd still find room for:
Mooney, JP Weigle, Ephgrave, Jack Taylor, MXL.
The first three on the forum that jump to mind are GMG's Kvale, Scooper's 953 Waterford and cdm's Passoni.
Originally Posted by rogertc1
Retired and old it is too much of a bike for me. However is on the wall for my memories. I love how it looks.
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I guess these would be our grail bikes. His and hers Mapei’s and Triestina Ramato’s
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
Is that a wall of yo-yos and tops?
Looks like yo-yos in in behind glass, then tops in packaging in the top left of the pic.
rogertc1 there is so much info to process in the pic and all of it is fascinating. Is the wallpaper made up of raccoons, mice, and koalas holding onto bamboo? Also, I didnt see the gun hanging with the bike until a couple minutes into looking, then laughed at how obvious it is for me to overlook.
Nice bike, to be clear.
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Grail is a state of mind.
Since I lost mine,
I just enjoy any great ride.
Maybe grail is = Inspiration and the ability to keep on giving would seem essential.
Oh, and with nice accessories.
you can leave your hat on.....
Oh, and I love really old thread revivals.
@northbend has subsequently acquired his classic custom new bike.
Since I lost mine,
I just enjoy any great ride.
Maybe grail is = Inspiration and the ability to keep on giving would seem essential.
Oh, and with nice accessories.
you can leave your hat on.....
Oh, and I love really old thread revivals.
@northbend has subsequently acquired his classic custom new bike.
12-14-20, 01:13 PM
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I am fortunate to have all my grail bikes. Here they are in order of acquisition. All three have been repainted by Ed Litton
1982ish Ron Cooper. As pictured, it's running Campy 10sp triple. It is currently set up as an Eroica-compliant 7sp.
1978 Eisentraut "A". I have since put fenders on it to be my wet road bike.
1965ish Cinelli Speciale Corsa
1982ish Ron Cooper. As pictured, it's running Campy 10sp triple. It is currently set up as an Eroica-compliant 7sp.
1978 Eisentraut "A". I have since put fenders on it to be my wet road bike.
1965ish Cinelli Speciale Corsa
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Originally Posted by Tomm Willians
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My 3 grail bikes......changes from time to time but for now
JA Holland Road/Path restomod
an early Hercules "club" bike
And a rare Curley Lug Carlton Flyer Road/Path ( if frames count in this thread )
JA Holland Road/Path restomod
an early Hercules "club" bike
And a rare Curley Lug Carlton Flyer Road/Path ( if frames count in this thread )
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Hmmm.... for some reason I really want an old path race, something like the Gov'nor, Low, stretched out, looking fast just sitting there kind of bike.
And something from the master himself, David Kirk.
And any bike that's been blessed by the true champ Greg Lemond's sweat!
And something from the master himself, David Kirk.
And any bike that's been blessed by the true champ Greg Lemond's sweat!
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
I am fortunate to have all my grail bikes. Here they are in order of acquisition. All three have been repainted by Ed Litton
1982ish Ron Cooper. As pictured, it's running Campy 10sp triple. It is currently set up as an Eroica-compliant 7sp.
1978 Eisentraut "A". I have since put fenders on it to be my wet road bike.
1965ish Cinelli Speciale Corsa
1982ish Ron Cooper. As pictured, it's running Campy 10sp triple. It is currently set up as an Eroica-compliant 7sp.
1978 Eisentraut "A". I have since put fenders on it to be my wet road bike.
1965ish Cinelli Speciale Corsa
the Eisentraut is A handsome bike too, pun intended.
12-14-20, 10:43 PM
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After all that hunting, 'tis a shame you could only find the long-wheelbase version. I hear the one with the short wheelbase is a rear scorcher!
It took me almost 25 years to find this in my size and that includes goingto Italy back in the 90's to find the frame shop out of business. I found this 3 hours from my house 20 years later.
Originally Posted by scooterpants
It took me almost 25 years to find this in my size and that includes goingto Italy back in the 90's to find the frame shop out of business. I found this 3 hours from my house 20 years later.
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12-14-20, 10:57 PM
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Big hooray for another reanimated zombie thread!
Ya know, a parent should never be asked to pick their most favorite children. So I'm participating under protest.
If I limit it to grail bikes that are built vintage, I'll have to go with.......
1. '72 Hetchins Italia
2. '81 JP Weigle
3. '82 Columbine
Ya know, a parent should never be asked to pick their most favorite children. So I'm participating under protest.
If I limit it to grail bikes that are built vintage, I'll have to go with.......
1. '72 Hetchins Italia
2. '81 JP Weigle
3. '82 Columbine
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