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Old 11-14-13, 09:25 PM
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Haven't seen a thread for this yet (if one exists feel free to delete mine or merge). my first and hopefully not last is a '92 PDG3. When I bought it someone had replaced the stock 7 speed RX100 with 8 speed Dura-Ace. I've replaced the wheels and added an Easton carbon fork. I've got the original wheels & fork so its easily switched back to stock.

And for those concerned, the lower end shifters are temporary until a better set of Dura Ace (or even 105) shifters is found. What is on there now fit the bill at the time and are functional... enough said.


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Originally Posted by bres dad View Post
Haven't seen a thread for this yet (if one exists feel free to delete mine or merge). my first and hopefully not last is a '92 PDG3. When I bought it someone had replaced the stock 7 speed RX100 with 8 speed Dura-Ace. I've replaced the wheels and added an Easton carbon fork. I've got the original wheels & fork so its easily switched back to stock.

And you replaced the Dura-Ace with... Sora?
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I highly doubt a Paramount originally came with a RX100 group. RX100 was definitely mid-range, technically slightly below 105 though the only difference was the finish.

EDIT: I guess they did make Paramounts with RX100. I am surprised. I would have expected at least 105 even for the lowest tier Paramount.

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My dad paying for the '66 Paramount, full Campy Record:

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And you replaced the Dura-Ace with... Sora?
um, no... the Dura Ace drive train is very much intact. I did replace the down tube shifters with STI. Searched (and still searching) for some good Dura Ace STI's but haven't found a set yet. I traded some other stuff out for a set of NIB 8 speed Shimano STI shifters. Low end yes but the price was right and will be replaced with a more worthy set in due time.
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Originally Posted by bres dad View Post
um, no... the Dura Ace drive train is very much intact. I did replace the down tube shifters with STI. Searched (and still searching) for some good Dura Ace STI's but haven't found a set yet. I traded some other stuff out for a set of NIB 8 speed Shimano STI shifters. Low end yes but the price was right and will be replaced with a more worthy set in due time.
Keep your eyes peeled. I found my 9s DA STIs in a crappy ebay ad that got no attention for $74.
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Originally Posted by degan View Post
I highly doubt a Paramount originally came with a RX100 group. RX100 was definitely mid-range, technically slightly below 105 though the only difference was the finish.
Actually a few did, at least in 1992. Here are scans from a catalog showing the PDG 2 & 3 had either a full or partial RX-100 group. The PDG 5 and higher had 105 or Ultegra. I saw another PDG 3, same year that was all stock and it had the RX-100 group on it. Mine still has the RX-100 brakes.

https://bikecatalogs.org/SCHWINN/1992...992_Pmt_23.jpg
https://bikecatalogs.org/SCHWINN/1992...992_Pmt_24.jpg
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Originally Posted by shoota View Post
Keep your eyes peeled. I found my 9s DA STIs in a crappy ebay ad that got no attention for $74.
I've been watching a few (including some minty, never used but not NOS that went for about $260) but I've got a few other higher priority items on the list.
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Here are three of mine. Front to back: 1940 track bike, 1972 chrome P15-9, 1987 Waterford "Standard"

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My 2 Paramounts. 1974 P10-9 touring bike and a 1992 Japanese (Panasonic) built OS2 Road version. Roger
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My 1972 Paramount, full NR. Brand new powder coat. Wharn I first got the bike, someone had already removed the original paint and chrome.
Here it is resting with my friend's 86 Cilo after a little ride in Italy.
Action shot in the fire roads above Orange County, CA
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Here's my '66:



And my '84 before I applied the decals:



I need to take some better photos of it before the snow.

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'83 early Waterford Standard triplized with late '80s and early 90's Shimano 105.
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A 91 Series 5 that was briefly in the stable:

Interesting TIG welded 90 Paramount with 650 wheelset:

Really, really nice 86 with DA that I ignorantly sold off. Mostly original, too:
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Originally Posted by bres dad View Post
Actually a few did, at least in 1992. Here are scans from a catalog showing the PDG 2 & 3 had either a full or partial RX-100 group. The PDG 5 and higher had 105 or Ultegra. I saw another PDG 3, same year that was all stock and it had the RX-100 group on it. Mine still has the RX-100 brakes.

https://bikecatalogs.org/SCHWINN/1992...992_Pmt_23.jpg
https://bikecatalogs.org/SCHWINN/1992...992_Pmt_24.jpg
Wow, they even had some with 500EX parts on it. Schwinn must have been getting desperate near the end.
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1973 P13 With Super Record Group.

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Well you guys have already seen my '72 P15-9, but for the thread...

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Originally Posted by Scooper View Post
Here are three of mine. Front to back: 1940 track bike, 1972 chrome P15-9, 1987 Waterford "Standard"

Scooper, yours is my all time favorite Paramount photograph!

Not in the same league, but I love 'em all the same - here are my three:


1966 P-12


1972 P-13, badgered together with a variety of parts


1989, with triple
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Wow, they even had some with 500EX parts on it. Schwinn must have been getting desperate near the end.
If I was buying a new bike, I'dve probably bought that one. I tend to buy the nicest frame i can afford, and then spec my own parts as stock wears.
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I only had the frame and did not exactly do a traditional build. VO crankset and wheels, Shimano drivetrain with Ultegra indexed bar end shifters, Nitto rando handlebars, and Tektro aero levers. One change from the photo is that I took off the 23mm trainers and replaced them with 28mm Pasela Tourguards.


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I'll be ignoring this thread as I remember hearing somewhere that thou shall not covet another man's bike.

(But if I do sneak a peak here and there I'm sure the Creator would forgive a fella a little bike lust.)
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My three.
I've had them for a very long time. They hung as wall art for 15 years.

Now the two 24" (60cm) ones have saddle and 700c wheel upgrades and I ride them all the time on nice summer days.

Kool Orange ones are 1972 P15-9 (matching husband and wife pair, the small frame one is pretty close to NOS)
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