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Old 11-19-13, 08:30 AM
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Pasela 27 inch tread questions

I need a set of 27 x 1 or 27 x 1/8 Panaracer Pasela tires for my C'dale ST400 and have seen a number of online sites state that the tread on the 27 inch is different that 700c. Well I have 2 sets of both sizes (27 x 1 1/4 and 700 x 23c) of Pasela TG tires on other bikes and they have the same directional kind of dotted cross hatched tread which I like.

My question is will a standard non-TG Pasela have that same dotted tread in 27 inch or do only the TG versions have that tread? I can't quite figure out why the sites state that there is a difference in tread. Some show a tread pattern like what I have and some show a more straight lined tread pattern that I don't really want. Very confusing :-(

I don't really want to spend the extra $ on the TG for this bike since it isn't a frequent rider and I won't be touring with it. Plus the site I want to order from (to get free shipping with other combined items - Jenson) doesn't have the TG in a 27 x 1 size.

Does any one have experience with the more lined version in case that is what I wind up with. I really like the other tread pattern and typically don't like lined tread.
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hmmm. I just looked at all my Pasela tires. TG and regular, non TG. They all have identical tread patterns. Unless they've changed them recently.
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hmmm. I just looked at all my Pasela tires. TG and regular, non TG. They all have identical tread patterns. Unless they've changed them recently.
Do you have a non TG in 27" with that pattern?
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Oops. I should have mentioned. ALL my Paselas are 27 inch. And yes, I have 27 X 1 1/4, 1 1/8 and one inch, TG and standard, and they all share the same tread pattern.
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I think lots of the websites have out-of-date (or just wrong) images for these tires. The 27"x1-1/4" non-TG Paselas on my girlfriend's bike have this tread:



I bought them last year.
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I have both, and they look the same.
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badger_biker, I know exactly what you mean. Some sites show what looks to be a generic promo image of the Pasela's with a straight centerline and wavy lines on both sides of the straight line, like HERE. I've also seen the copy indicating different tread patterns for the 27", despite the fact I know that 27"s come with the same tread pattern as Tom showed above. I'm in the market for 27" tires, likely Paselas but still undecided, and it's been a point of confusion for me as well. My best guess is that there are two different tread patterns in 27" size.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
I think lots of the websites have out-of-date (or just wrong) images for these tires. The 27"x1-1/4" non-TG Paselas on my girlfriend's bike have this tread:



I bought them last year.
gaucho777 - I'm glad you validated that I'm not out of my mind - at least on this topic - Thanks for the pic ThermionicScott - that is what I have on my 27 TG's and is what I like. I guess I'll just cross my fingers and hope that is what I get. I sent an email to the Jenson and got a non answer that they didn't have another tire to compare the 27 x 1 to. Couldn't quite understand that since the sell both but just chalked it up to the customer service area being separate from the warehouse to see the actual products.

One more question - other than puncture protection - has anyone noticed a appreciable difference between TG and not? For example handling or ride comfort?
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One more question - other than puncture protection - has anyone noticed a appreciable difference between TG and not? For example handling or ride comfort?
I have both TG and non on various bikes. I'm not sure I could tell the difference, but so many other things are different bike to bike. Maybe I could tell the difference if I had identical sets of wheels to try on the same bike, or maybe not.

We've run over 4000 miles on the TG'ed tandem with no flat. In fact the only puncture-related flat any of my Paselas had was from a staple from the office carpet which went through the TG on my UO8 commuter (the very first day I rode in!). But then that bike has seen way more grungy-road miles than the others. I'd say that unless you or her will be riding where a flat would ruin your whole day, you'd probably be happy with either.
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Hmmm, typical marketing move. Show a pic of a tire mounted on a rim with no spokes.
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Those are the treads I have on 2 sets of 27" regular Paselas, and 2 sets of 700c TG Paselas. To be honest with you, I don't notice a significant difference in the ride quality. I have heard that if you get the TG's with a Kevlar bead, they are actually lighter than the regular ones.
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Hmmm, typical marketing move. Show a pic of a tire mounted on a rim with no spokes.
What do you mean by that? Keeps the attention on the tire and away from the wheel.
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Originally Posted by badger_biker View Post
I sent an email to the Jenson and got a non answer that they didn't have another tire to compare the 27 x 1 to. Couldn't quite understand that since the sell both but just chalked it up to the customer service area being separate from the warehouse to see the actual products.?
I ordered a set of 27 x 1-1/8 yesterday morning from Jensen and it looks like they may be delivered today or tomorrow (to Canada; fastest shipping I've seen). I can keep you posted as to the tread pattern that shows up.
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I ordered a set of 27 x 1-1/8 yesterday morning from Jensen and it looks like they may be delivered today or tomorrow (to Canada; fastest shipping I've seen). I can keep you posted as to the tread pattern that shows up.
Thanks - that would be very helpful!
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Looks like the tread pattern checks out... and I would buy again from Jensen in a heartbeat, crazy fast shipping.

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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
I think lots of the websites have out-of-date (or just wrong) images for these tires. The 27"x1-1/4" non-TG Paselas on my girlfriend's bike have this tread:



I bought them last year.
I just bought a set of 27 x 1 1/8. They were delivered this afternoon. The tread pattern is the same as shown above.
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I had been on 27 x 1 1/8 non-TG and I went to x 1 1/4 TG- I noticed a world of difference in the ride. It was a much more plush ride- and it seemed like I had less rolling resistance.

I've been riding the 1 1/4 TG for the past few years.

I more recently was riding (the same) 1 1/8 non-TG and switched to TG- I did NOT notice any appreciable difference.

I have had a piece of glass go through a TG tire.

I currently have 1 1/8 Non-TG, 1 1/8 TG, 1 1/4 TG and 700c x 28 TG. I recently gave a way a set of 700c x 32 TG. All had the same tread pattern. Earlier this year was the first I'd heard about the 27s having different tread pattern than 700c- and it was confusing to me as I had and was using both, and they looked completely the same to me...
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Looks like the tread pattern checks out... and I would buy again from Jensen in a heartbeat, crazy fast shipping.

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Wait a minute. Did they ship them in that wheel box? Or is that just your storage unit, Jeff?
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Those are the treads I have on 2 sets of 27" regular Paselas, and 2 sets of 700c TG Paselas. To be honest with you, I don't notice a significant difference in the ride quality. I have heard that if you get the TG's with a Kevlar bead, they are actually lighter than the regular ones.
Well, sure, because kevlar is a lot lighter than steel.
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I don't think they make the 27 inch version with a Kevlar bead, do they?
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I don't think they make the 27 inch version with a Kevlar bead, do they?
No. I didn't mean to imply that they do. Yet another reason to switch to 700C if feasible.
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According to their site, Panaracer does offer 27" Pasela TGs with a kevlar bead: https://www.panaracer.com/urban.php#pasela_tg

(Just not the regular ones.)
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No. I didn't mean to imply that they do. Yet another reason to switch to 700C if feasible.
Ah. No inference taken, Noglider. I had just never seen them offered. Thanks ThermionicScott, for posting that. By the way, I wonder how you tell from one TG to another if it IS Aramid bead?

As for switching to 700c, well…. I'd like to but most of the vintage bikes I've found the last few years…not many, admittedly…seem to show up with 27 inch wheels on them. I don't mind 27's. As long as they fit OK in the bike.
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Well, sure, 27's ride the same as 700C's. My Super Course's wheels are still holding up and serving well, so I won't change them any time soon. But if faced with a decision of replacing 27's with either size, I would choose 700C.
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