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Nice blog entry on 1933-1942 Raleigh Record Ace

Old 12-02-13, 09:59 PM
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Nice blog entry on 1933-1942 Raleigh Record Ace

History, evolution, equipment, advertisements, racing success, the iron men who rode the steel bike to fame: here.

"No single mass produced machine of its day was ridden to more road cycling records than the Raleigh Record Ace c. 1937-1939."

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Great blog, thanks!
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Tommy Godwin's 75,000 miles ridden in a single calendar year (1939), and 100,000 miles in 499 days of riding, must be the most impressive athletic feat I've ever heard of.
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Cool blog.....But the first picture is not an RRA...that's an advert. for a Humber Super Club ooops!

Fork crown gives it away.




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Originally Posted by Velognome
ooops!
Or not.

"Having acquired Humber Cycles of Coventry in 1932, its production was absorbed into that of Raleigh in Nottingham and in an early example of "branding", the new Humber range starting in 1933 largely mirrored that of the parent company save for the model names, colours, transfers and a few components. Consequently, the Raleigh Record Ace was offered from 1934-39 in a Humber badged equivalent, the Super Club no. 95, identical in price and components to the RRA except for plain chainring, different fork crown and Humber pattern lamp brackets."

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I'm amused/appalled that these bikes wouldn't qualify to be ridden in the Eroica Britannia, but I suppose that's a privately organized ride and they can have any rules they want.
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Originally Posted by tcs
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"Having acquired Humber Cycles of Coventry in 1932, its production was absorbed into that of Raleigh in Nottingham and in an early example of "branding", the new Humber range starting in 1933 largely mirrored that of the parent company save for the model names, colours, transfers and a few components. Consequently, the Raleigh Record Ace was offered from 1934-39 in a Humber badged equivalent, the Super Club no. 95, identical in price and components to the RRA except for plain chainring, different fork crown and Humber pattern lamp brackets."
I understand the Super Cub is identical to the RRA 'cept the badging decals and the fork crown...which is what makes is what makes it identifiable as a Super Club. Anyway as I side, nice site, I enjoyed the read and would very much enjoy having RRA or Club in my collection.
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I'm amused/appalled that these bikes wouldn't qualify to be ridden in the Eroica Britannia, but I suppose that's a privately organized ride and they can have any rules they want.
Don't you think they'd permit (or make an exception for) a Sturmey Archer equipped bike?
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Originally Posted by tcs
I'm amused/appalled that these bikes wouldn't qualify to be ridden in the Eroica Britannia, but I suppose that's a privately organized ride and they can have any rules they want.
I am confused as to why an RRA would not qualify as heroic.
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The Eroica Britannia folks seem to have adopted the Italian L'Eroica set up in toto, celebrating the history of Italian and French racing and bikes. In general, British bicycle competition and the equipment used was quite different from the continent between the 1880s into the 1960s.

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Don't you think they'd permit (or make an exception for) a Sturmey Archer equipped bike?
I have no idea how strictly they'll enforce their rules (of pertinence here: geared bikes must have shifters on the downtube; no time trial bikes allowed). If a rider showed up with an original RRA with historical provenance, would they have the huevos to turn the machine away?

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The exploded diagram shows a flip flop rear hub...not a Sturmey, 3 speed was likely an option.
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Originally Posted by clubman
The exploded diagram shows a flip flop rear hub...not a Sturmey, 3 speed was likely an option.
As explained in the text of the blog post.
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Originally Posted by tcs
The Eroica Britannia folks seem to have adopted the Italian L'Eroica set up in toto, celebrating the history of Italian and French racing and bikes. In general, British bicycle competition and the equipment used was quite different from the 1880s into the 1960s.

I have no idea how strictly they'll enforce their rules (of pertinence here: geared bikes must have shifters on the downtube; no time trial bikes allowed). If a rider showed up with an original RRA with historical provenance, would they have the huevos to turn the machine away?
I wonder if (would hope) they'll be as lenient as the Italian organizers who let 3-speed Pashleys into l'Eroica. I'm pretty sure the bikes weren't even vintage! https://www.pashley.co.uk/guvnor/eroica.html
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Originally Posted by tcs
The Eroica Britannia folks seem to have adopted the Italian L'Eroica set up in toto, celebrating the history of Italian and French racing and bikes. In general, British bicycle competition and the equipment used was quite different from the continent between the 1880s into the 1960s.



I have no idea how strictly they'll enforce their rules (of pertinence here: geared bikes must have shifters on the downtube; no time trial bikes allowed). If a rider showed up with an original RRA with historical provenance, would they have the huevos to turn the machine away?
The rules, at least in Italy, are followed in spirit. L'Eoica in Italy has the exact same rule, shifters must be on the down tube. Yet they allow cambio corsa, paris roubaix, vittoria margherita and other shifters not on the down tube.

Since this is the inaugural of the Britannia L'Eroica and there is no presadense, I cannot be 100% certain. But I am willing to bet they would more than welcome an RRA with a sturmey archer.
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Originally Posted by rhm
Tommy Godwin's 75,000 miles ridden in a single calendar year (1939), and 100,000 miles in 499 days of riding, must be the most impressive athletic feat I've ever heard of.
Kind of borderline insanity.

What are these "pacers" that were mentioned?
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Originally Posted by big chainring
Kind of borderline insanity.
Who's talking?

Nnnnooooo, seriously, I take issue only with "borderline". 200 miles a day for 500 days? That's well beyond the border. I rode 100 miles a day for 18 days (average) once and found myself becoming profoundly stupid (more so than usual, even). If Godwin wasn't nutso to begin with he must have ended up that way. But that was the age of dance marathons and other crazy stuff; he had a sponsor with deep pockets; and he stuck it out one day at a time. Still... what a feat!
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Originally Posted by iab
Since this is the inaugural of the Britannia L'Eroica and there is no presadense, I cannot be 100% certain. But I am willing to bet they would more than welcome an RRA with a sturmey archer.
I certainly and sincerely hope that would be the case. Still, Italian rules + British bureaucracy...
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Great page on RRA, TCS. Thank you.

Wowser. That Tommy Godwin was amazing - His accomplishments in endurance make the best among us look like a complete wuss. (No offense intended - he makes the best modern pro-athlete look like one too!)


Here is a page detailing more about him
- including a link with plenty of pics from 1939
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