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A Good Reason to Boycott Specialized
I'm sure that most of you have heard about this elsewhere, but in case you haven't, Specialized thinks that it's a good idea to sue a small veteran-owned business because they arrogantly, doosh-baggedly, and jag-offedly think that they should own the rights to the name of a town in France and one of the most famous races in the world:
http://wpmedia.blogs.calgaryherald.c...danrichter.jpg "A Canadian veteran of the Afghanistan war who operates a tiny bicycle shop in Cochrane is being forced to change his store’s name after being threatened with a lawsuit by one of the giants of the U.S. bike industry. Dan Richter, owner of Cafe Roubaix Bicycle Studio, located above the famous Mackay’s Ice Cream in Cochrane, says he received a letter from the lawyers of big bicycle maker Specialized several months ago, demanding he change the store’s name because the company owns the trademark on the word Roubaix, which they use to market a brand of road bike. Richter, however, says he didn’t name his store after the company’s bike, rather after a region in France that hosts one of the most famous bike races in the world, the gruelling 117-year-old Paris-Roubaix. Because the name is an icon of bike culture, and graces hundreds of other products from bike tires to a brand of cycling tights sold by MEC (and even other road bikes), Richter says he has a good case to keep the store name, but is capitulating because he can’t afford a legal fight in court. “It’s been frustrating,” Richter told me. “The response throughout this process (from Specialized) has been arrogant and almost unbelievably dismissive. “We didn’t want to go public . . . but they’ve made it clear on no uncertain terms, they are going to sue.” Larry Koury, managing director of Specialized Canada Inc., said the company is simply defending its legally owned trademark. “A simple trademark search would have prevented this,” Koury wrote in an email, along with a reference to the federal government’s trademark database showing Specialized’s registration of the word Roubaix. “We are required to defend or lose our trademark registration.” Richter, who says the running the bike shop has helped him deal with the post-traumatic stress disorder that ended his military career, says he did some research and felt comfortable that naming his store after a location like Roubaix wouldn’t contradict Canada’s intellectual property protection laws. He doesn’t think the name confuses anybody shopping for bikes. His store sells high-end bikes and his handmade wheels in an Italian-cycling inspired environment. He does not sell Specialized products. “I understand the need for the protection of intellectual property, but this is named after a city known worldwide for this race,” Richter said. “For our customer base, there’s an appeal (with the name Roubaix). Our market understands that race, and it reflects what we want to provide for them.” Richter says his lawyer thinks they have a good case to make, but the fight could cost upwards of $150,000 in legal fees, a price too steep for his small company. Changing his company’s name isn’t as simple as erecting a new sign, Richter says. He has been selling custom wheels under that name for about a year and has operated the store since March, all of which has helped him build an formidable brand, reputation and online presence. Being forced to adopt a new moniker means he will have to start anew, an expensive and time-consuming prospect. “I’ve gone through some very intense (post-traumatic stress disorder) therapy in the last year. Forcing myself to get out there into the public and the business world has taken a huge effort,” he says. “I’m just at the point were we think this might fly, so this was a huge hit for me personally.” http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2013/...t-specialized/ http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/ |
I've posted a few nastygrams to their Facebook page. I like Specialized and its products, so this is very disappointing to me. I won't be buying any of their products until they back off.
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Yeah, I posted a lot on their FB page as well, and would encourage others to do so as well. I'm all for legally protecting your property, but that's ridiculous. Unbelievably arrogant.
It may be legal to do so, but that doesn't make it right. |
I would lean towards his side when it comes to naming the shop Cafe Roubaix Bicycles, but when naming his wheels with the trademarked name I swing more towards Specialized's side. Bringing in PTSD is just an attempt to garner sympathy and has nothing to do with trademark law. It's like trying to justify pirating MP3s because listening to music calms you.
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Two words RPK79 - Fuji Roubaix.
It's a city and a race...this would be like Kraft threatening someone for using the word Philadelphia...since it own's Philadelphia Cream Cheese. No way in hell this would pass muster at trial either....it's just harassment and abusive. They have a right to send obnoxious letters - and I have a right not to buy their products until they stop. |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 16314964)
Two words RPK79 - Fuji Roubaix.
It's a city and a race...this would be like Kraft threatening someone for using the word Philadelphia...since it own's Philadelphia Cream Cheese. A better example is there is also a famous Red Wing Pottery there. If I started making Red Wing Ceramics I would probably not be safe from getting sued. |
Shared on FB, commented to specialized.. disgusted inside. They only went after him because they assume he doesn't have the finances/support to fight back.. as was said before Fuji makes a Roubaix.. I'd like to see that court battle instead.
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It's a name that's already used by other brands...Fuji, FMB and Challenger just off the top of my head (and I can find others). One of the requirements of intellectual property is that it be enforced with other competitors...unless they gave permission to those companies, they have some 'splaining to do. They can file/request any IP they want - Roubaix is a city and a word/name used extensively in cycling (before Specialized's IP) and this is clearly not a bicycle model. It's a generic term that pre-dates their IP...it's not something they'd be able to enforce absent blatant theft of their logo/design/font.
Like I said...no way this passes muster...it's just threatening, abusive behavior. I can send cease and desist letters to who ever I want...and I can sue whoever I want. The object here isn't to win at trial (they wouldn't), it's to bully and intimidate. |
Originally Posted by RaleighSport
(Post 16314993)
Shared on FB, commented to specialized.. disgusted inside. They only went after him because they assume he doesn't have the finances/support to fight back.. as was said before Fuji makes a Roubaix.. I'd like to see that court battle instead.
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Fuji sold Specialized the trademark...
^^^^beat me to it |
Originally Posted by RPK79
(Post 16314954)
I would lean towards his side when it comes to naming the shop Cafe Roubaix Bicycles, but when naming his wheels with the trademarked name I swing more towards Specialized's side.
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 16314964)
Two words RPK79 - Fuji Roubaix.
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And Challenge and FMB?
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Originally Posted by miamijim
(Post 16315013)
Agreed. From what I've read abut other trademark cases he'd probably win if it was just his shop being named, 'Roubaix'.
My understanding is that Fuji sued Specialized and won. Fuji is allowing Specialized to use the name under license in the U.S. Fuji's trademark doesnt apply to Canada but Specialized's does. |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 16315024)
Thanks for the info - I wasn't aware of that - but this isn't a bicycle frame (and even then I think there would have to be more than just use of the word Roubaix...Specialized and Fuji use the term on similar frames, so there is more overlap).
I mean it's not like folks would think my seats were in any way related to the good name of Trek Madone bikes. That wouldn't in any way improve my sales, right? |
There's a lot of bad information going around about trademarks and intellectual property in general. One thing that's being missed is trademark owners bust take immediate steps to protect their IP or risk losing it. Regardless of what people think about Specialized, they are almost obligated to take the steps they did or if they let it go, the next person infringing on their trademark may be able to get away.
Also this small business owner should do a better job with his homework. You don't start a new business, name it after a well known brand, and not expect anything more to come of it? |
This is under Canadian law, not US - I am not an expert on US IP, though I do have basic familiarity. Canadian is not in my repertoire. I am, in essence, talking a bit out of my butt and will stop doing so.
I did find an interesting link which essentially says Specialized has a case, but whether it's winnable is anyone's guess: http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/...dium=whats-hot To answer your question regarding Madone...if there were numerous parts using the name Madone prior to Trek, and a race named the Madone, and it was a common phrase throughout cycling dating back decades, I would think that would be very difficult to enforce. |
Originally Posted by StanSeven
(Post 16315045)
There's a lot of bad information going around about trademarks and intellectual property in general. One thing that's being missed is trademark owners bust take immediate steps to protect their IP or risk losing it. Regardless of what people think about Specialized, they are almost obligated to take the steps they did or if they let it go, the next person infringing on their trademark may be able to get away.
Also this small business owner should do a better job with his homework. You don't start a new business, name it after a well known brand, and not expect anything more to come of it? You have to do your due diligence. "Richter, who says the running the bike shop has helped him deal with the post-traumatic stress disorder that ended his military career, says he did some research and felt comfortable that naming his store after a location like Roubaix wouldn’t contradict Canada’s intellectual property protection laws. He doesn’t think the name confuses anybody shopping for bikes. His store sells high-end bikes and his handmade wheels in an Italian-cycling inspired environment. He does not sell Specialized products." He clearly researched and knew that there was a trademark. He should have consulted an attorney instead of using his gut. |
Originally Posted by StanSeven
(Post 16315045)
There's a lot of bad information going around about trademarks and intellectual property in general. One thing that's being missed is trademark owners bust take immediate steps to protect their IP or risk losing it. Regardless of what people think about Specialized, they are almost obligated to take the steps they did or if they let it go, the next person infringing on their trademark may be able to get away.
Also this small business owner should do a better job with his homework. You don't start a new business, name it after a well known brand, and not expect anything more to come of it? |
Originally Posted by miamijim
(Post 16315065)
Agreed and understood. As others have said, if it was just his store I could see him winning a lawsuit, but when he has products named 'Roubaix'
To me, it sounds like non-sense to try and enforce IP over a name used throughout cycling prior to your IP when it's being used on a product that isn't your product, only the same industry. I also do not think a consumer of high end bikes/parts would be confused. I disagree with both of you on principle...however I'm no expert on Canadian approach to IP. |
Here is what the Canadian government has to say about trademarks.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/T-13/section-6.html [h=6]When mark or name confusing[/h]
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did they name the town after a Specialized bike or a Fuji bike, in France?
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Originally Posted by orangeology
(Post 16315096)
did they name the town after a Specialized bike or a Fuji bike, in France?
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FYI - Challenge, Veloflex, FMB and Vittoria all sell a Roubaix model tire (which I assume are not licensed). That has more in common with wheels than a bicycle frame. There is a bottle cage model called the roubaix. There are Roubaix cycling clothing models. There is a Roubaix shoe cover.
Originally Posted by RPK79
(Post 16315099)
No, but Specialized and Fuji do hold the trademark.
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Specialized has a history of strong-arm tactics (see BellSports vs. Specialized, Specialized vs. Volagi, Specialized vs. Mountain Cycle, etc.). As a consumer, I've stopped buying Specialized products.
Unverified anecdote: One of the larger local bike stores, Mike's Bikes, which sells a good deal of Specialized bikes, used to display their share of Giro helmets. Now it's almost all the latest model of Specialized helmets on display. They told me they can still order other helmets like Giro, but that they are not displaying them any longer. Based on the Bell Sports vs. Specialized case, I have to think Specialized pressure played a part. I don't like large manufacturer's dictating to local business owners how they go about their business. In cases such as Specialized vs. Cafe Roubaix Bicycles, the courts rarely get to decide who's right and who's wrong. Specialized is aware that most of it's adversaries will be unwilling to stick out their necks by amassing huge legal fees--even if it is a winnable case. |
I bet the lawyers at Specialized are feeling confident that their TDF "corporate clout" will see them through such lawsuits in France with no problems.....
I think I like Specialized better during those 80's Turbo S days when they don't seem to be so ginormously high and mighty...... Maybe next time I should give one of their saddle fitting planks a good fart when I see one in a bike shop....:D |
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