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Cable routing suggestions for Campagnolo Valentino --> Record FD upgrade?

Old 12-11-13, 01:59 PM
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Cable routing suggestions for Campagnolo Valentino --> Record FD upgrade?

On one of my current projects, I have a well-used Campagnolo Valentino FD which I would like to upgrade to a Record FD. For those not already familiar with the Valentino FDs, the cable housing mounts directly to the bottom of the derailleur via a step-down ferrule. The frame has braze-ons on both side of the downtube for holding the housing, so using the standard clamp-on Campagnolo cable guide is not an ideal solution. In order to use the Record FD (I already have a period-correct pre-CPSC Record FD), I would need to terminate the cable housing below the FD, perhaps via a clamp-on single cable guide mounted below the FD on the seat tube. However, I'm not sure if that's really the best solution in terms of aesthetics and function (thinking of the angle of the cable around the seat tube). I'm sure Problem Solvers makes something that might do the trick, but I don't want a modern gizmo on this bike. Did Campagnolo make single cable clamp-on guides--something like a chainstay cable guide but for mounting on a main tube? Anyone else find an elegant solution to a similar dilema?

This is the best photo I have of the BB area in question (the braze-ons on the non-drive side match what you can see on the drive-side).

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i think i understand what you are describing.

i conquered this task by putting housing as you did above, but running it under the bottom bracket. just cut the housing short after it makes the bend and before it would would connect to the old FD. it will stay in place. i could have cut mine way shorter, but i was a newb back then.



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^Thanks, illwafer. I wouldn't have thought of that. Seeing one cable over the BB and another under may take some getting used to, but that does seem like a simple and effective potential solution.
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Oddly enough, I just saw a single, Campagnolo front derailler cable stop guide on ebay yesterday.

What's the bike, looks cool...?
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Older version of the Record FD came with a cable stop.
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The piece you have missing is a clamped cable guide thingy from campagnolo. Shimano had them too.
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Originally Posted by dbakl View Post
Oddly enough, I just saw a single, Campagnolo front derailler cable stop guide on ebay yesterday.

What's the bike, looks cool...?
Hmmm, I looked earlier today but didn't see anything. Let me know if you still see the listing. I'll try my searching skills again...

EDIT: I think I FOUND IT, but I'm not willing to spend $50 for a cable clamp--and especially not $100 for it!

Thanks. The bike is an early 70s Cilo Pacer (Reynolds 531). It's basically done, I just haven't had a chance to take new photos yet. Coming to a "Show Your Santa bikes" thread near you.

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Older version of the Record FD came with a cable stop.
Good to know. Too bad I don't have that version. Mine is like THIS.

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Could you use the version with stop on one side and the short tubular guide on the other?
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Suntour ones are cheap.
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Could you use the version with stop on one side and the short tubular guide on the other?
Perhaps. I'd want to remove/file off the side with the tubular guide. But those aren't cheap either, and IME they usually have the stop on the right and the guide for the FD cable on the left, whereas I'll need the stop on the left once I mount it below the FD. I could flip it, but then the Campagnolo logo would be on the wrong side of the seat tube. Maybe I'll just stick with the Valentino FD for now...

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Suntour ones are cheap.
Yes, but I'm going with a curmudgeon build on this one. It bothers me enough that I've got Japanese tires on an otherwise all-Euro bike.
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Originally Posted by illwafer View Post
i think i understand what you are describing.

i conquered this task by putting housing as you did above, but running it under the bottom bracket. just cut the housing short after it makes the bend and before it would would connect to the old FD. it will stay in place. i could have cut mine way shorter, but i was a newb back then.


Thanks for the tip. I think this should work well, though I still have to get used to the way it looks. I'm slow to adapt. As luck would have it, I didn't have to cut the housing at all. What you see below is the same length as routed directly to the Valentino RD. And as proof that good things come to those who wait, I hadn't yet cut the period-correct Campagnolo shift cables (gifted by miamijim) which are also a perfect fit with this routing. Meant to be?


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Looking perfect to add to Santa's bicycle shed!

BTW, I did the same thing with the FD on the PX10 I built for my organist. I didn't point out to him this was not the correct way to handle the cable routing, and he's never mentioned there has been a problem shifting his triple.
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nice job!
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