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Old 03-06-14, 08:59 AM
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I have three Trek built LeMonds and they are not rebadged Treks. My 2006 Versailles is half cf, half steel. The 2000 Zurich is steel with cf fork, this is the smoothest riding bike I own.
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There is a '97 Alpe still on the block for cheap money. I was not impressed and pretty sure I'm not alone on that opinion.
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Old 03-06-14, 10:53 AM
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there is a pretty nice looking lemond on cr right now...its a maillot jon(what ever) model but looks very similar to the zurich...853 tubing...carbon fork....in fact..im not sure what the diff is? you can check it out on modesto cr...the seller wants 800.00 for it however
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I've got a lugged, pre-Trek Greg Lemond that serves as my main rider. It is made from Columbus Cromor tubing and rides well enough that it's my go to bike. I picked it up for $400 and swapped the parts for new stuff. I'm not into his new offerings with Time, but if he made some high quality steel bikes again I'd absolutely be interested. I also keep an eye out for Trek era Lemonds at the right price.

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Old 03-06-14, 11:45 PM
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"I told you so!" ... Awesome.
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I've got a lugged, pre-Trek Greg Lemond that serves as my main rider. It is made from Columbus Cromor tubing and rides well enough that it's my go to bike. I picked it up for $400 and swapped the parts for new stuff. I'm not into his new offerings with Time, but if he made some high quality steel bikes again I'd absolutely be interested. I also keep an eye out for Trek era Lemonds at the right price.
Actually, under the paint (and depending on the year) the Maillot Jaune, Zurich, Buenos Aries, & Alpe de Huez are pretty much the same frames with only minor variations in the tubeset (853 Pro vs. 853 'designer select'); however the MJ & Z were the first to go to 1 1/8" OS carbon forks, & parts-spec varied from year to year.
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probably not the right price...but nice

2001 Lemond Maillot Jaune 57 cm
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Actually, under the paint (and depending on the year) the Maillot Jaune, Zurich, Buenos Aries, & Alpe de Huez are pretty much the same frames with only minor variations in the tubeset (853 Pro vs. 853 'designer select'); however the MJ & Z were the first to go to 1 1/8" OS carbon forks, & parts-spec varied from year to year.
Also slight differences in the tubing for the rear triangle.
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Classic. Some of the later ones lack charm, but I have an 01 Poprad and I think it is just a refined classic. Particularly the paint.

This one isn't mine, but a good example.

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Also slight differences in the tubing for the rear triangle.
Well, yeah.

That's kinda what Trek meant by "designer select": they used a Reynolds 7xx steel in the stays (I haven't had my morning coffee yet, so can't remember just offhand whether it was 731 or 725; they have slightly different properties), but speaking from personal experience, it makes for a very nice ride.
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Forget the Lemon D's which although are nice bikes most are basically Treks. The Della Santa has it all, a C & V provenance and the aura of Lemond.

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Pretty sure it was 725. I thought I'd read somewhere that 5XX series was used in the lower end models. I do agree that 853/725 makes for a very nice riding frame. I had an older USA made Voodoo Rada made with 853 ProTeam/725 and it was a very light great riding frame.

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Originally Posted by Oldairhead View Post
Forget the Lemon D's which although are nice bikes most are basically Treks. The Della Santa has it all, a C & V provenance and the aura of Lemond.
Trek did not buy Lemond until '95.
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Classic. Some of the later ones lack charm, but I have an 01 Poprad and I think it is just a refined classic. Particularly the paint.

This one isn't mine, but a good example.

You know there is a Lemond Proprad from '01 that has been passed around over and over again in the KC area for people who were all trying cyclocross out over the years. The frame has never failed anyone. Every two years or so I see it for sale again...sweet frame.
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I only have 25mi on mine, since I just finished building it last weekend, but I could tell right away it'll be a keeper.

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Sweet ride. BTW, I don't know what you think of those cantis. They look like the stock Avids. I recently updated to some TRP min V's and I think it was well worth the price. I found that stiff straight fork led to too much chatter no matter how I adjusted the pads and yoke on the cantis. Mine is also my go to commuter, and I find the mini V's to generally be more reliable. Set and forget. Not hope and fiddle.
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Sweet ride. BTW, I don't know what you think of those cantis. They look like the stock Avids. I recently updated to some TRP min V's and I think it was well worth the price. I found that stiff straight fork led to too much chatter no matter how I adjusted the pads and yoke on the cantis. Mine is also my go to commuter, and I find the mini V's to generally be more reliable. Set and forget. Not hope and fiddle.
I am actually thinking of converting it to V's. I 'll just equip it with bar end shifters and Tektro V brake levers.

I don't experience any chatter with these canti's, but setting it up is a pain.
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If my 2000 Zurich is basically a Trek according to some experts on this thread, tell me what model would that be?
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Calfee made bikes from his 'CarbonFrames' era for Lemond. They were ridden in at least one TdF.
3 or 4 years ago there was a 58cm Calfee LeMond on eBay with a Buy It Now price of $600. I should have just put it on the credit card...

I have a 2004 Buenos Aires, 1/2 True Temper, 1/2 carbon. I like the fact that Trek never slapped their decals on that design.

This LeMond SLX has been on eBay for a long time with a BIN price of $999. My in-laws live where the seller is; if it's still listed next time we visit I may arrange to meet up and make an offer.

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Lemond bikes have a small but loyal following.
A Team Z Lemond would certainly draw admiring attention from collectors.

Close, but this one is the real deal for me:



And this one is up there too!

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Originally Posted by Oldairhead View Post
Forget the Lemon D's which although are nice bikes most are basically Treks. The Della Santa has it all, a C & V provenance and the aura of Lemond.
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But, since most of the Trek-Lemond interest is in the slack, O.S. 853, welded in the U.S. bikes - What model Trek should we be looking for?
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If my 2000 Zurich is basically a Trek according to some experts on this thread, tell me what model would that be?
Lemond frames after whatever year it was (sometime in the 90s) were made by Trek, but they were not designed by Trek. (Kind of like Waterford, Curt Goodrich and various others have built Rivendells. but they do not design custom Rivendells). As a general rule, Lemonds will have slacker seat tube angles and longer top tubes than what Trek was making. Also, by the time Trek was making Lemonds, Trek was not selling that many steel frames - as I recall (and I'm not 100% sure about this), the touring-oriented 520 and the tandems were mainly it for Trek steel by the time they started building Lemond frames, and carbon fiber with some aluminum holdovers ruled the Trek racing and fast sport riding lines.

And while I agree that scoring a properly provenance Della Santa-built Lemond would be the bee's knees, the Trek-built Lemonds ride very well. Or at least my 2000 Zurich did.
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As I mentioned in my original post I believe that Lemonds are "nice bikes", I just have never thought of them as Classic and Vintage candidates. Perhaps it is because they seem a little common to me, many of my friends ride them. In fact, a couple of weeks ago I rode the Solvang Double Century with two friends, both of whom were riding Lemonds. One was a full carbon and the other a Ti / Carbon hybrid (I don't know the models). We rode together all day and finished in good time, about 13 hours overall. During the ride I never heard anyone comment, "Oh look, there's a Lemond." But, over the course of the day I did receive a number of inquiries about my 1991 Sancineto.

I suppose that 20 years from now a Lemond will be considered a "collectible vintage" of sorts. By most definitions the "classic era" ended around 1987 with the advent of indexed shifting and aero cable routing. The "post classic" era of the steel frame pretty much ended at the turn of the millennium even though smaller custom builders continue on. I do believe that steel frames will always remain relevant because of their many positive characteristics. I do not know how the many mass produced and disposable bikes that are currently available will be categorized. There may not be many of them left after a few years so they could well be collectors items too!
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I LOVE mine. It is a 2001 Nevada City (Reynolds 853) that was given to me by my Uncle who changed the wheels. I have changed the saddle (Koobi) stem and handlebar (On One Midge), but other than that it is still stock. It is my main ride.





here is a link to the 2001 brochure.

http://ia600502.us.archive.org/13/items/LemondBicycles2001Catalog/2001Lemond.pdf
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There is a nice 2001 853/CF Alpe d'Huez at my LBS that I'm thinking of getting for my son. Solid green with white panels, good looking frame. I really like the way it combines classic and more modern elements.
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There is a nice 2001 853/CF Alpe d'Huez at my LBS that I'm thinking of getting for my son. Solid green with white panels, good looking frame. I really like the way it combines classic and more modern elements.
Those are good looking, I agree.

They are strong performers for the $$$.

A couple I recommend are Poprads and Zurichs.

Maybe not tops in oohs and aaahs until you ride them.

Then you get it.
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