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Old 03-08-14, 05:22 PM
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Went out for one project, came home with two!

I had placed a voluntary hold on acquiring any more bikes due to an economic change, but, as will surprise no one, I wasn't able to control myself when the temptation got too severe. I had paused all of my searches and was avoiding CL. I haven't been I to Via...I was really trying...

I went into CL to sell a bike, checked for it...and this was at the top of the page. I think my passion for East Coast builders is well known and Tom Kellogg is among the guys I most admire. What was I to do? Making matters worse, the seller is a former member who I've met and think highly of; I think those of us who knew him all miss Picchio Special's presence on the forum. He's a super friendly, super knowledgeable guy with great taste. He's also incredibly generous and, unasked, insisted I take a "bonus."

Neither will be built up until things stabilize, and I'm hoping that happens before I have to start getting rid of stuff. Without further ado...

















Unexpected bonus - this belonged to Connie Carpenter-Phinney! 753, SBDU




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Old 03-08-14, 05:31 PM
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ok, now i'm jealous.
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Originally Posted by zazenzach
ok, now i'm jealous.
Me too, but I don't think it will be for long...

Extraordinary, esp. the Kellogg. Don't think it needs much building...
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The Raleigh has a pretty unique touch:





Originally Posted by Poguemahone
Me too, but I don't think it will be for long...

Extraordinary, esp. the Kellogg. Don't think it needs much building...
Just the normal stuff - cables, overhaul bearings, tape, some cleaning.

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I remember Picchio Special as being very knowledgable here, sorry to hear he is out of the C&V. The Kellogg is a tremendous score. Good luck with it.


Did you get to see the Wizzard( why do I feel like I am in Oz when I type that)? Please tell me he measured it wrong and it is actually a 65cm.
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I didn't, I think he shipped it. I did see his Masi, Grandis, Colnago and a few others. I especially love the Grandis.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake



Just the normal stuff - cables, overhaul bearings, tape, some cleaning.

As we discussed, this makes up for missing that Ross a couple of years back. Really, really a nice purchase.
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Originally Posted by Poguemahone
As we discussed, this makes up for missing that Ross a couple of years back. Really, really a nice purchase.
It does! There are only three bikes I whiffed on that I really regret missing:

A Lotus Aero model
An Orange SL Umberto Marnati...

and, most of all, that AMAZING custom Ross.

This might be just as cool - maybe.

You know, normally a bike like Colleen Carpenter's SBDU, with drilled fork drops, would be an attention getter - but next to the Kellogg it fades a bit.
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WOW, I love that Raleigh USA ! So much history there
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
...that AMAZING custom Ross.
I don't believe I have heard the story of this one.

Do tell...
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There was this incredible TK custom built Ross, Ishiwata 022, with a SR gruppo on the bay, my size, great paint job. I bid 1000, I was sniped and it sold for 1001. I kicked myself for...well, a while.

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WOW, I love that Raleigh USA ! So much history there
It's a cool bike...


Picchio Special reports that it was among the first 753 imperials, and the last with drilled fork drops.

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What are the eventual plans for it ? ( Raleigh USA ) Build it up as she raced it or with what you have in the bins ?
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Honestly - I haven't decided yet, and I'm so far from taking that on that it seems very distant. I have a few ideas:

The frame is an 83'...seller thinks the team used AX, and that might be an interesting choice . The negative is AX is hard to find, overpriced, not especially attractive and I don't like the dyna thing.

Suntour Superbe could be a good choice - I don't really have a Suntour bike.

It seems too cool for parts bin, but it's an option.

I might go single speed fast commuter actually...with north roads. I've always wanted to try a goofy build like that. The frame is RIDICULOUSLY light.
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Go goofy, Northroads would be fine. You can always change it up a couple of times too. There's time for serious efforts later. Main thing is you get to ride a serious performance bike. Take it by the coffee shops, maybe let the connection to it's previous owner slip out.

I'm sure you will be smiling while you pedal this.
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Nice bikes.

Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
The frame is an 83'...seller thinks the team used AX, and that might be an interesting choice . The negative is AX is hard to find, overpriced, not especially attractive and I don't like the dyna thing.
You forgot modestly dysfunctional. The early DA/600 series were weak relative to their Suntour equivalents,
Suntour Superbe could be a good choice - I don't really have a Suntour bike.
^ like this.

The Wizard was my size, but I wasn't so interested. Any idea why Picchio Special is getting rid of bikes?
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Yes, he's got some other priorities right now and down sized a few. He's still got some very nice rides (that Grandis is superb).

I should probably go with Campy, but I have a lot of it and want to do something different. I'm really liking the fast townie build.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Yes, he's got some other priorities right now and down sized a few. He's still got some very nice rides (that Grandis is superb).

I should probably go with Campy, but I have a lot of it and want to do something different. I'm really liking the fast townie build.
I'd build the Palo Alto first. That's just me though.

I'm doing a major swoon over the TK though. That one has a direct connection for me, as my little brother has one as well.

Really a great rider and it's fun to just sit and gawk at the TK and his Redcay side by side.

Congrats on your good fortune. I would love to see PS stop by more often.
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The Wizard was my size, but I wasn't so interested. Any idea why Picchio Special is getting rid of bikes?[/QUOTE]

I would have tried for the Wizard if it were my size.

Special bicycles. Imho
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Just curious.... So, what size did Connie ride???
Is that something like a 57-58cm??
IIRC, she was one of the tallest women racers back then......
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I'd build the Palo Alto first. That's just me though.

I'm doing a major swoon over the TK though. That one has a direct connection for me, as my little brother has one as well.

Really a great rider and it's fun to just sit and gawk at the TK and his Redcay side by side.

Congrats on your good fortune. I would love to see PS stop by more often.
Me too - he's good people. I really like Redcay and Boston - it's amazing how many fantastic builders that period produced.

The Palo Alto has been on back burner for 2 years - I have almost all of the parts I want, I just have to build it up. The TK probably did just bump it.
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Just curious.... So, what size did Connie ride???
Is that something like a 57-58cm??
IIRC, she was one of the tallest women racers back then......
TT measures 56 ctc, ST measures 55.5 ctc. The frame has the size listed at 57.5 (half size indicating custom).
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Me too - he's good people. I really like Redcay and Boston - it's amazing how many fantastic builders that period produced.

The Palo Alto has been on back burner for 2 years - I have almost all of the parts I want, I just have to build it up. The TK probably did just bump it.
I wouldn't have your patience to wait on the TK. I would have it stripped by morning for a top to bottom rebuild.

The only vintage I want more than a TK is a McLean.
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Super score! Really love that Kellogg. It will be a stunner when cleaned up...

Hope that your economic situation stabilizes soon!
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Super score! Really love that Kellogg. It will be a stunner when cleaned up...

Hope that your economic situation stabilizes soon!
Thanks! I have some tough choices - take a job like the one I lost, or have some tough times while aiming for some more credentials and increasing my long term value. The scared part of me (and that's a big part) is saying don't take chances, accept a decent offer. I think the smarter long term strategy involves some temporary sacrifice.
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