View Poll Results: VO Pass Hunter or BMC Monster Cross?
Velo Orange Pass Hunter
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25.64%
Black Mountain Cycles Monster Cross
12
30.77%
New bikes are stupid!
17
43.59%
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Help me decide: VO Pass Hunter or BMC Monster Cross?
03-26-14, 04:26 AM
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I was really impressed with the balance of the bike for the $$$. We ride mostly off road nowadays and this bike was built for bombing around gravel roads. The 105 groupset was much smoother than I recall.
They had factory demo examples going for reduced preseason rates and I barely escaped with my wallet intact.
A problem comes in though, when I start adding up "upgrades" like an XT/H Plus Son wheelset.
03-26-14, 07:04 AM
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For some reason my LBS hasn't got any in yet. I really want to see the red version of the Tamland. It looks like you can put bigger tires on it than the Furley/Roper series.
03-26-14, 07:43 AM
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Guitar Ted Productions: Raleigh Tamland 2: In Light Of The Circumstances.....
03-26-14, 07:58 AM
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Grady…I think the ZXs are the best mix of durability and "fast" that I use. They are definitely a bit more fragile than a GP4000, but they roll so nice. I run the 28s on my Legend Ti as well…and it just floats…beautiful ride.
Another contender is the Michelin Pro Race4 in 25…it's a big 25.
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Another contender is the Michelin Pro Race4 in 25…it's a big 25.
-Mark
03-26-14, 08:05 AM
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You should shoot Jeff a call…I'm pretty sure the CX bike for his co-worker is done.
If you're intent is to ride gravel (especially Ozark gravel)…keep it as simple, solid, and light as possible. You can build a retro French constructeur later!
Are you riding the Tour of Hermann in 2 weeks?
-Mark
If you're intent is to ride gravel (especially Ozark gravel)…keep it as simple, solid, and light as possible. You can build a retro French constructeur later!
Are you riding the Tour of Hermann in 2 weeks?
-Mark
Arrgh! Alright, I'll out myself. I have been thinking about an Fe Cyles as well. I'm looking forward to seeing the completion of the CX all rounder Jeff is building currently. His entry at this years NAHBS shows promise. I'd like to see what he could do building a full out retro constructeur. The price on a basic frame and fork might not be prohibitive, but then when I start thinking about all the little custom touches I would like to have it starts adding up. If I wait long enough to make a decision I'll probably end up with one.
03-26-14, 08:35 AM
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I know I sound like an All-City pitch man, but one thing I really like is that they don't use a unicrown fork on any of their bikes (i.e. Raleigh Tamland). Just an opinion. 
One thing I'll point out about the Mr. Pink: PressFit 30 bottom bracket. For most this is a turn-off, so if that's a big issue for you, the Mr. Pink is not the bike. For me, I sell modern bikes every day (or try to
), so it's no biggie, and I like to at least imagine I can feel the added stiffness at the bb with that oversized shell, etc. And in all seriousness, I've now owned three bikes with pressfit uber modern bb's, and had zero problems with them. My take is that I can live with them or without them, and it's not a deal-killer either way in regard to choosing a bike. But that's just me, and I do understand it when some folks are turned off by it. YMMV.
None of the other All-City models use pressfit bb's, btw.
One thing I'll point out about the Mr. Pink: PressFit 30 bottom bracket. For most this is a turn-off, so if that's a big issue for you, the Mr. Pink is not the bike. For me, I sell modern bikes every day (or try to
), so it's no biggie, and I like to at least imagine I can feel the added stiffness at the bb with that oversized shell, etc. And in all seriousness, I've now owned three bikes with pressfit uber modern bb's, and had zero problems with them. My take is that I can live with them or without them, and it's not a deal-killer either way in regard to choosing a bike. But that's just me, and I do understand it when some folks are turned off by it. YMMV.None of the other All-City models use pressfit bb's, btw.
03-26-14, 08:48 AM
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Grady…I think the ZXs are the best mix of durability and "fast" that I use. They are definitely a bit more fragile than a GP4000, but they roll so nice. I run the 28s on my Legend Ti as well…and it just floats…beautiful ride.
Another contender is the Michelin Pro Race4 in 25…it's a big 25.
-Mark
Another contender is the Michelin Pro Race4 in 25…it's a big 25.
-Mark
I've been looking for an excuse.
They'll fit just fine on my Croll.
Thanks.
03-26-14, 04:38 PM
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You should shoot Jeff a call…I'm pretty sure the CX bike for his co-worker is done.
If you're intent is to ride gravel (especially Ozark gravel)…keep it as simple, solid, and light as possible. You can build a retro French constructeur later!
Are you riding the Tour of Hermann in 2 weeks?
-Mark
If you're intent is to ride gravel (especially Ozark gravel)…keep it as simple, solid, and light as possible. You can build a retro French constructeur later!
Are you riding the Tour of Hermann in 2 weeks?
-Mark
I'm going to do some more thinking. It might just be the right time for a custom bike.
03-26-14, 06:39 PM
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I have been looking at the same bikes and I am leaning towards the BMC because it can take tires up to 1.95. The other bikes I am considering re the Soma Double Cross and the Surly Straggler. The Soma is probably the cheapest of the group at $425 but the largest tire it will take is a 38. The BMC also comes in orange and everyone needs at least one orange bike.
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03-26-14, 07:43 PM
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03-28-14, 06:35 AM
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Thanks to this thread I am buying a All City Macho Man Disc.....Girlfriend is gonna be mad. haha
03-28-14, 08:12 AM
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I'm glad to see that "new bikes are stupid" is leading by a wide margin. These bikes don't belong in C&V.
03-28-14, 10:22 AM
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I like the All City bikes, but why did they have to give them such bad names?
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03-28-14, 10:48 AM
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In regard to the Mr. Pink model name, I think it comes from Steve Buscemi's character in the movie Reservoir Dogs. I'm really not sharp enough to understand why you would name a bike after that particular character, but then again, there's a lot of things I don't get. One thing I do know: I love the bike.
03-28-14, 11:20 AM
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I agree, the names are out there. Ever since I've owned a Mr. Pink, I've asked myself, "am I really cool enough to own a bike called the 'Mr. Pink?'" Truthfully, I don't think I am, but I'm trying.
In regard to the Mr. Pink model name, I think it comes from Steve Buscemi's character in the movie Reservoir Dogs. I'm really not sharp enough to understand why you would name a bike after that particular character, but then again, there's a lot of things I don't get. One thing I do know: I love the bike.
In regard to the Mr. Pink model name, I think it comes from Steve Buscemi's character in the movie Reservoir Dogs. I'm really not sharp enough to understand why you would name a bike after that particular character, but then again, there's a lot of things I don't get. One thing I do know: I love the bike.
Second, regarding names, I'd ride a bike called "Space Horse." I think it's kind of cool
03-28-14, 11:33 AM
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No doubt. I think the A/C model names are all cool.....just maybe a little "too cool" in some cases (i.e., so cool I don't get some of them). Regardless, I can tell you the A/C models mentioned in this thread are a really good choice for new, affordable, steel frames, if that's what someone is looking for. Pics of the Space Horse online and in catalogs don't do it justice...it's much better in person.