Gazelle champion mondail AB or Concorde mistral better value ?
 

Hi all I have to choose between either a 1981 gazelle champion mondial AB full bike for around €400 I will post a pic of specs it has reynolds 531 tubing.
Or a Concorde mistral frame with headset and BB for €160. This frame has columbus alle tubing

This is the Concorde
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=373558
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=373559

And this is the same frame as the gazelle would be but the one if be gettin would be a full bike.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=373560
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=373561

Which would be better value ?

The Gazelle

Thanks :thumb:

As long as it fits, the Gazelle by a wide margin.

Agreed.

Really ok yep it will fit just perfect at 59cm what are the components like for qaulity ? As in the wheels and that.

The Gazelle, all the way.

If that is the gazelle size as stated by gazelle it is center to top... be aware of that, but yeah 531 over aelle any day.

Ok thanks wat u think of components Ino it's Abit of a mash up but are some worth anything ?

Yes to a mashup and no details on what Campagnolo. Can't really asses it.

Gazelle. I like them too.

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...esideview2.jpg

Looking again at what is on the Gazelle, I think 400Euro might be a bit steep. If it were all Campa Record, then maybe so.

Ok I might be able to get him down to 350

Good if you can...go lower if possible. Do consider my comments are just my opinion. I have not seen the bike and the description leaves much to be desired. Not knowing what level Campagnolo makes it a tough call. I admit to being a bit of a Campa snob. If it isn't top of the line such as Record, I am not interested.

Did I say Gazelle already? Unless you find a Squadra or Aguila, the Gazelle would be a better choice by far.

i will email him and ask him if he knows what level the canpagnolo is. Not sure what saddle or that would be on it but i think it would look nice with a good brooks saddle and a set if stitch on leather handle bar wraps.

All campy parts are either nuovo record or older he said.

I had Abit of a look around and it seems that a lot of these bikes came standard with a full nuovo set. If I do get the bike I plan on replacing everything that's not campy to campy so it's original.

When you ordered your CM where I live, back in the day, you had several choices of groups in different price ranges. These changed year by year. But the most popular groups were the Suntour VX, Shimano 600 (Arabesque) and Campy NR in that order of price range. This was in the second half of the 70's, when lots of folks wanted to be like the guys of Peter Post (Ti-Raleigh).

Check out this page for all kinds of CM knowledge:
the original Gazelle Champion Mondial

As others already wrote, go with the gazelle, it is a much better frame.
in the place I lived in the 80s, it was normal to buy a frame and have it build up with the parts you wanted, standard builds where not popular.

Thats interesting, yes I will be going with the gazelle the seller is away for a week. I will go look when he's back.