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Black and Orange, Orange and Black!

Old 05-03-14, 06:27 AM
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Black and Orange, Orange and Black!

Two new builds, similar colour schemes.

Build 1: 1985 Strawberry

Specs: According to the very helpful Andy Newlands, the 134th frame built by him in Portland in 1985 out of Reynolds tubing, one of the last frames to be made with a forged rather than cast wishbone stay. Apparently there was a warehouse fire later that destroyed all records, so that was all I could get about the frame.

Likes: To go fast! handles better the faster it goes.

Doesn't like: To turn slow. Now I am used to the toe overlap, but there was a learning-curve.

Apologies for: The somewhat utilitarian build. The frame deserves better, but this is what I had. Sadly the nicest part, the White Industries titanium bottom bracket, is out of sight. Amazing piece of mech for whoever is attempting a 6 speed build - intuitive and highly adjustable chainline.

Love riding this bike, inspires me to hustle and weave in and out of traffic. Due to my ugly brake lever decision it's also comfortable on long rides, I've already completed a metric century on it. The only issue is the saddle, a Selle Royal Superleggero. I love the way it looks, and it is super-light, but it is taking a long time for it to break me in. It started out with the nickname The Anal Explorer, and has slowly, painfully been down-graded to The Suppository. Hopefully by the end of summer I will be numb and not notice it.

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Build 2: 1960's-something Raymond Poulidor

Specs: Built from 3 tubes butted Reynolds 531 and something seamed and less impressive for the rest. Lots of lovely pieces like the Stronglight crank and headset. This bike was apparently hanging in a garage after being brought over from England by a man that bought it for a honeymoon bike trip way back when. Everything that could rot or solidify had done so, but after equal parts elbow grease, Phil grease, vinegar and oil it is back on the road! After trying to figure it out, I'm fairly certain this bike would have originally come with Huret derailleurs, because after a soak the top tube guides clearly read Huret. I may replace all the Suntour at some point, although it shifts awfully well.

Likes: To look pretty! Very nice riding bike that soaks up the bumps, even on 22mm tubulars.

Doesn't like: Me. The stem is a little long for me, and my hands started to go numb after half an hour of riding on the beautiful cloth tape job I'd done. It's got cork on it now which has vastly improved things, but I'm hoping after I get used to the stem I can switch back to cloth.

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Hope you like them (or at least one of them)!
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Old 05-03-14, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by devinfan View Post
It started out with the nickname The Anal Explorer, and has slowly, painfully been down-graded to The Suppository.
This information is not surprising.....
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I positively love the ORANGE Raymond Poulidor!
(Love the St Chris bell too but the ones I've seen for sale cost more than any of my bikes!)

The one change I would make though, tingley palms or no, is going back to cloth bar tape. For me at least, the period look is very important on a bike like this.
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Old 05-03-14, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by auchencrow View Post
I positively love the ORANGE Raymond Poulidor!
(Love the St Chris bell too but the ones I've seen for sale cost more than any of my bikes!)

The one change I would make though, tingley palms or no, is going back to cloth bar tape. For me at least, the period look is very important on a bike like this.
Thanks Auchen. I agree! I think if I ride it every day for a week or so I should be able to switch back. I'm considering sneaking some kind of shock-absorbing material UNDER the cloth. I'm thinking it would have originally had white tape what with the white cables and straps, but maybe someone else has a better idea.
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This thread hurts my perineum.
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Old 05-03-14, 07:28 AM
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That lug lining and striping on the R Poulidor is great. neat bike.
I too think the saddle noses look too high, but saddle position is a personal choice, of course.
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Thanks rootboy. The pics are exaggerating the tilt, but I'll try lowering them. I set them at an angle because that's how I always rode my Brooks saddles, but I'm open to suggestions. Still getting both these rides dialed in.
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Looking at that seat angle leaves me no questions as to the origins of those nicknames. Nice build, though.
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Who knows, Devin. If it's comfortable, then it works. It "might' be putting a bit too much pressure on your tender fromunder parts, though. Like I say, it's a highly personal thing and far be it from me to suggest anyone change their saddle angle.
Except for that guy Auchencrow, of course.
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Old 05-03-14, 09:02 AM
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Nice bikes!

You might want to invest in a bike fit, your saddle position is pretty whack. Your sit bones should be on the widest part of the saddle if you have to tilt the saddle to get comfortable I would think that the frames you are riding don't fit you.
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Your saddle position is wackdoodle... it might work on a laid back cruiser buit on a road bike with a fair degree of saddle to bar drop I can see why you might be having some issues.

You might start by levelling the noses and work from there.
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Old 05-03-14, 09:53 AM
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LOL the pictures are exaggerating things, looking at it in front of me the saddle is almost level. The saddle is actually pretty comfortable now, I was just trying to be funny.
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Contrary to the popular maxim, photos always lie. Cool bikes, Devin. I'd particularly like to hear more about that orange one.
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Two fantastic rides! I really like the details of the 1985 Strawberry. Very cool frame: monostay and method of post tightening. The black Nitto post was the right choice visually.
The two-tone brake calipers are a great touch. It looks fast standing still.

The Poulidor is a parade float...simply pretty! Nice resto job, the finish looks very good. It looks like a fun comfy ride, maybe a zero offset seat post will move you forward an inch.
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Thanks for the comments! When it stops raining I'm going to have to take some outdoor pics - this time from a bit of a distance to avoid the crazy fish-eye effect that is making my saddles look like that. Also hopefully by the next time I take a picture of the Poulidor it will be sporting cloth tape and an Ideale saddle.

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Two fantastic rides! I really like the details of the 1985 Strawberry. Very cool frame: monostay and method of post tightening. The black Nitto post was the right choice visually.
The two-tone brake calipers are a great touch. It looks fast standing still.

The Poulidor is a parade float...simply pretty! Nice resto job, the finish looks very good. It looks like a fun comfy ride, maybe a zero offset seat post will move you forward an inch.
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I'm an old dude, but even when I was young, i think those bars would have caused me grief. Even if they aren't, they nevertheless look close enough to track bars — just my impression. And they were never designed for comfort for over hours of road work. As for the saddle setup. I'd need an urologist before I left my neighborhood! But to each his own
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I would set a saddle like that with the nose as low as it could go before I start to feel like I'm sliding forward. Only you can judge where that point is.

Great looking bikes!

I have that same bell but in green. Has a nice pra-ching sound to it.
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I love the bell, and it does have a nice tone. My sister bought it for me for my last birthday. My saddle is not as crazy as it looks in that fish-eye close-up. Here is a distance shot, you can see that it tilts up slightly but it's not that radical. Or maybe it is and I'm just a radical guy!




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I would set a saddle like that with the nose as low as it could go before I start to feel like I'm sliding forward. Only you can judge where that point is.

Great looking bikes!

I have that same bell but in green. Has a nice pra-ching sound to it.
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That looks better in that shot.
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Oh yeah - word of advice although you would all probably know better - don't put red wine in these Campy bottles, it stains them pink, semi-permanent-like. It took me a long time to get it white again, and now it sensibly only carries water.
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