I have atoned for my lack of Italian bikes, in Grandis style.
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I have atoned for my lack of Italian bikes, in Grandis style.
How is that a guy who owns over a dozen vintage bikes from all over the world doesn't have any Italian bikes? In fact, has never owned an Italian bike? That's sort of like having a big jazz collection on vinyl and saying, "Thelonius Monk? Never heard of him." (And no, my MIJ '84 Bianchi with 100% Japanese components does not count as an Italian bike.)
I have repaired this deficit by making my first Italian a pretty interesting one; a Grandis (1974? Superleggera?)

Pics are all "as found." The original owner living two towns east having had this thing hanging long years on a hook in his storage shed; I think he said he's ridden it once in about the last ten years. As you can see, he wasn't a finicky wipe-it-down-after-every-ride kinda guy, and it's got grime everywhere you would expect on a bike that you rode the hell out of for decades. He bought it new in 1975, and put enough hard-riding miles on it to convert not one, but two of those heavy-duty 1970s Brooks Professionals into worn-down, highly-burnished ass hatchets. No way I could keep up with this guy in his prime. He's 75 now and stands about 6'3", so he must have been some magnificent beast when he bought this thing nearly 40 years ago.

Who's a dirty girl? You are, that's who.





I have repaired this deficit by making my first Italian a pretty interesting one; a Grandis (1974? Superleggera?)

Pics are all "as found." The original owner living two towns east having had this thing hanging long years on a hook in his storage shed; I think he said he's ridden it once in about the last ten years. As you can see, he wasn't a finicky wipe-it-down-after-every-ride kinda guy, and it's got grime everywhere you would expect on a bike that you rode the hell out of for decades. He bought it new in 1975, and put enough hard-riding miles on it to convert not one, but two of those heavy-duty 1970s Brooks Professionals into worn-down, highly-burnished ass hatchets. No way I could keep up with this guy in his prime. He's 75 now and stands about 6'3", so he must have been some magnificent beast when he bought this thing nearly 40 years ago.

Who's a dirty girl? You are, that's who.






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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
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The hoods are well seasoned, and the ancient bar tape is wrapped over one or two (or three) layers of even more ancient bar tape.

Brakes are Gran Compe which I may replace with NR stuff someday (if I can find some at the right price) to match the rest of the components. Other than that, clean it, lube it, replace the cables, tires, etc and slap my newer (1977) Brooks Professional on it and call it good. I'll try to save those old broken down Brookses that came with the bike by blocking them, but if that doesn't work, maybe I'll have RHM tool me up a new cover on one of them with the Grandis "G" logo from the headbadge






Brakes are Gran Compe which I may replace with NR stuff someday (if I can find some at the right price) to match the rest of the components. Other than that, clean it, lube it, replace the cables, tires, etc and slap my newer (1977) Brooks Professional on it and call it good. I'll try to save those old broken down Brookses that came with the bike by blocking them, but if that doesn't work, maybe I'll have RHM tool me up a new cover on one of them with the Grandis "G" logo from the headbadge







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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
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That looks like an immensely classy bike. Used and loved.
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Sorry I didn't see the other posts before I posted the wrong thing.
I'll correct that with:
Pretty bike with a great history.
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Sorry I didn't see the other posts before I posted the wrong thing.
I'll correct that with:
Pretty bike with a great history.
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Just looking at this makes me happy. You checked your Italian box in grand(is) fashion - these are one of my faves. Love the patina and look forward to your ride reports.
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Bravo! sir Bravo!
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Awesome find!!! Love it.
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A Beautiful bike ! I think that is a great example of an Italian racing wizbang.
How about replacing the Blackburn USA on the seat tube with a Cobra "made in Italy " water bottle cage ?
How about replacing the Blackburn USA on the seat tube with a Cobra "made in Italy " water bottle cage ?
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Great find! It should cleanup really, really nice.
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that is a beautiful bicycle. Great find.
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Very nice. I bet with a clean-up and little polishing it will be even more stunning that it already is. I'm glad it has gone to someone who appreciates it.
Did the original owner happen to say how he came to buy a Grandis in 1975? the weren't exactly a household name, even among the congescenti then, at least not where in my ill-spent youth.
Did the original owner happen to say how he came to buy a Grandis in 1975? the weren't exactly a household name, even among the congescenti then, at least not where in my ill-spent youth.
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Looks like it has the same frame details as mine, which Grandis ID'ed at a '73 Super Leggera.
Send them pictures and ask them for an ID - they were happy to help with mine.
Send them pictures and ask them for an ID - they were happy to help with mine.
Did the original owner happen to say how he came to buy a Grandis in 1975? the weren't exactly a household name, even among the congescenti then, at least not where in my ill-spent youth.
With the saddle and bars looking 'dialed in', you know the prior owner was one with machine.



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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
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How is that a guy who owns over a dozen vintage bikes from all over the world doesn't have any Italian bikes? In fact, has never owned an Italian bike? That's sort of like having a big jazz collection on vinyl and saying, "Thelonius Monk? Never heard of him." (And no, my MIJ '84 Bianchi with 100% Japanese components does not count as an Italian bike.)

Now about your question: I can see perfectly how that could happen based on personal experience. I'm probably going to get flamed for this statement, but most Italian bicycles just don't really appeal to me. They normally don't accommodate fenders, they usually don't have the relaxed geometry I like, Italian chrome is generally known for not being that good, they have derailleurs, etc. That is not to say that I don't like ALL Italian bicycles, but most just don't tick the right boxes for me. The closest I have to an Italian bicycle is my late-80's Alpine. I do have an early 60's Fiorelli tandem, but I'm pretty sure the Ital-ophiles on BF cringe to think that any Italian bicycle could have 26" wheels and balloon tires. Simply put, English stuff is what I like the best and looks the best to my eye.
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Beautiful! And my size too! I think I just fell in love with it.
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Forgot to mention, I first learned about this bike right here in the Bike Forums appraisals thread.
Thanks for feeding my sickness, guys.
Thanks for feeding my sickness, guys.

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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
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I absolutely love this bike. There's something about a way a great bike looks when it's just been re-discovered that I like even more than the polished and cleaned up versions, kind of like buried treasure that just came out of the ground. Not that I wouldn't clean it up, but it looks pretty magical now.
Fantastic find.
Fantastic find.
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one Wolber Super Competition (older Phil hub)
one Wolber Model 58 Super Champion (Sunshine hub)
one Rigida red label (Shunshine hub)
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● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubile ●1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
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Don't worry, you're not the only one. After all these decades I also never acquired an Italian-made bike, even though I lust after them.
Congrats on the Grandis find. Love the green, hope it shines up well.
Congrats on the Grandis find. Love the green, hope it shines up well.
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Forgot to mention, I first learned about this bike right here in the Bike Forums appraisals thread.
Thanks for feeding my sickness, guys.
Thanks for feeding my sickness, guys.
