Peugeot ID super easy
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I cant figure it out im guessing 1990
it has all shimano 600 and 105 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380021 |
Can we get a few more photos (drive side, details, points of attachment, decals, etc)? We don't have much to go on. The top tube cable guides look like what are on my peugeot. That's about all I can see in the picture that points that direction.
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I sent them and email and got some photos back. They arent much better.
I figured that the paint job would be a tell. it looks like there isnt one sticker on it from the photos. Thanks for your help |
Its a repainted frankenbike
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Yeah, as far as I can tell that's a custom paint job. Is there no SN on the bottom bracket to look at?
For future reference, these two websites are good places to try and match a Peugeot: 1. Cycles Peugeotl 2. Cycles Rétro-Peugeot |
I have seen this part and paint compliment on several pugs
I can send another email to get maybe a serial like half of their fleet in the late 80's and early 90's had 2 tone gradient paint 2 sets of braze-ons top cable routing lugged frame maybe cinelli stem and bar combo and its supposed to be quite light for steel |
Originally Posted by designation
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and its supposed to be quite light for steel
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Originally Posted by designation
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like half of their fleet in the late 80's and early 90's had 2 tone gradient paint
So I can say with near 100% certainty that that is a home-done paint job, which unless you plan on stripping and replacing with the accurate paint scheme, really ruins the value of the bike, IMO. |
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Ok here are some more photos
it is for sure a stock paint job the only other possibility is that it is not a pug look at the stamps on the components headset lockring is stamped frame is stamped SIMPLEX. paint chips go straight to metal Serialhttp://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380415 suntour chainring shimano 600 armshttp://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380416 shimano derailleur http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380417 M5 stamp?http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380418 Made in france stamphttp://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380419 shimano 105http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380420 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380421http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380422 SIMPLEX frame stamphttp://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380423 shimano hubs and wolber ALPINE rimhttp://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380424 luggedhttp://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380425 downtube shimano shiftershttp://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380426 |
Whatever it is... the frame is a bit older than '90. By '90 most companies had move to a unicrown fork and a more vertical dropout. The components, although not all if any original to the frame look more like '86/'87
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Originally Posted by designation
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it is for sure a stock paint job. paint chips go straight to metal
Regarding the "for sure", well, I can tell you that it "for sure" is not a stock paint job. If you can find a single document/scanned catalogue page I will admit to having been completely wrong, but I doubt it, because I've looked through a LOT of Peugeot catalogues. Here are some examples of what you're referring to: http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380523http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380524 You'll notice several differences: 1. Brighter colours. 2. Only 2 areas of colour. Yours uses one top tube area, then fade to tone #2 , then back to #1 at the BB. No stock paint job does that. 3. MISSING THE HUGE PEUGEOT LOGO ON THE DROP TUBE. 4. Also missing the the headset emblem. Again, if you can find ANY evidence that it's a stock paint job, I would fully concede but I am certain that this is not. My diagnosis still "frankenbike". |
All of the stickers are missing
that is why i was reaching out there is one still on the seat tube simply the sticker lion I will concede that it may not be stock peugeot paint i still think the bike is i can decal it the way it is or i could have it powder coated i guess i would hate to be wrong in either scenario if i can pin down a year of any kind or confirm in anyway other than the sticker that its a pug then ill move on the project Im really hoping a certain mega fan will come up with the correct answer |
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Now that I think about it, I also don't recall seeing any lugged Peugeots after 1989-ish. And before that, there are absolutely zero bikes with this paint scheme.
Perhaps someone with a better eye for lugs can use them to confirm that it's a Peugeot, but if the decal on top of the home made paint scheme was put on DIY as well, then I actually don't see any reason the bicycle is a Peugeot at all. Anyone can repaint it and stick a decal on. The SN I see doesn't look like most of the Peugeot SNs I've seen. They tend to be far longer: http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=380525 My last Peugeot I bought had the SN: Y003 34957. I might be totally wrong about this and it's just a repainted Peugeot, but I don't actually see that strong of an indication its Pug-ness. |
Originally Posted by designation
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i can decal it the way it is or i could have it powder coated i guess
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I don't think I've ever seen a lugged Peugeot with that paint job. I've also not seen, or been aware of many Peugeots that used Bocama lugs. I found one reference about a Vitus 172 bike with bocama lugs. The fastback seat stays don't really point to a Peugeot of the age of anything with Vitus 172.
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Originally Posted by 20grit
(Post 16760575)
I don't think I've ever seen a lugged Peugeot with that paint job.
Originally Posted by 20grit
(Post 16760575)
I've also not seen, or been aware of many Peugeots that used Bocama lugs. I found one reference about a Vitus 172 bike with bocama lugs. The fastback seat stays don't really point to a Peugeot of the age of anything with Vitus 172.
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The bike behind ii in picture 2 in post 3 looks interesting. Step-through Steyr Clubman?
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
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The bike behind ii in picture 2 in post 3 looks interesting. Step-through Steyr Clubman?
now i still need to id this frame http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=381126 |
I have the bike now and apart
this is a neater list of the components i got this thing for 100 bucks seat tube peugeot lion crest sticker faded head tube sticker maybe based on the posts here they could be from another bike Cinelli bars and stem With the weird compression bolt that looks like a rolo stronglight a1 headset 105 brakes all around shimano 42/53 rings shimano 600 crankarms ultegra derailleur bocama lugs shimano hubs and wolber rims 2 sets of braze-ons internal braze-on seat tube adjuster and whatever i may have left out from above |
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