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Old 06-16-14, 06:27 AM
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Raleigh Gran Sport... should I?

We received a nice donation at the coop last week, alot of lower end trek mtbs and junior bikes. a nice Ironhorse road frame, and few other BSOs... anyway, entangled in all of that mess, was a mid 70's Raleigh Gran Sport...
its in ok condition, has all the original equipment (simplex plastic crap) the paint is White with tealish blue panels. the hoods are white and have Carlton imprinted on them.. its very catchy. i quickly put a save ticket on it, so i can mull over possibly owning this one, it needs the usual, tires, brakes , cables, tune up. there are some rust spots in places, mostly around the lugs. in my haste i didn't take a picture of it, but it looks like the below sample

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they quoted me a price of 100 bones for it, honestly im probably going to buy it, it rides like a dream even in its state and the full 531 frame really is hard to turn down.. thoughts?
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If you don't want it, I'd be glad to take it off your hands for 100 dollars plus shipping.
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Originally Posted by GordoTrek
... thoughts?
Buy it.
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oh i want it, i love my raleighs... just like to be pushed into it
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Fully concur...go for it...at $100, you cannot really go wrong!
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Raleigh Gran Sport... should I?

I know that most everyone dumps on Simplex derailleurs. But If they have lasted 40 years and are still working, whats the problem with them? I much prefer them to some Japanese offering. And the GS came with the long cage version, very nice. I'll buy the derailleur from you if you replace it, but strongly suggest you give it a try.

Gran Sports are nice riding bikes. Good luck with it!
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This one's a no-brainer, if it's your size.
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what place do gran sports land in the heirarchy? ive heard they are on par with competitions, officially they are fourth from the top.. can anybody shed light on this?
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Originally Posted by GordoTrek
what place do gran sports land in the heirarchy? ive heard they are on par with competitions, officially they are fourth from the top.. can anybody shed light on this?
They were midway in the Raleigh price hierarchy at the time, above the Super Course, below the International and Competition. But that's a deceptive ranking. Component selection often dictated the price, or perhaps it should be said as target priced dictated component selection. The GS came with randonneur (nominally long-distance) handlebar too, which was an unusual choice for catalog models. If the frame didn't have manufacturing flaws it is excellent.

In any case, DO buy it. With decent wheels (which it may already have) and tires, and whatever derailleurs work (I'd recommend Suntour VGT-Luxe or Vx, inexpensive, bulletproof, light, crisp shifting) it is a superb bike.
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Get it. Great riding bikes. The English ones were DB 531 frame/fork, though most did not have forged drops. (I think '73s sometimes came with Zeus forged drops.) 80's Japanese ones were not 531. I love love love mine:
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im going to pick it up on saturday, its my size so i can't pass it up.. it has the 531 sticker on the frame and fork,, so that means the stays are hi-ten?
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Here's a little more to push you (I see you've already decided), but in case you have second thoughts. 1. If you don't buy it you'll see whoever did buy it riding around enjoying it and you'll regret not jumping at such a great opportunity. Or someone will buy nit, ride it a couple of times then let it languish in a dusty shed. It will never be able to get out and stretch it's legs....wheels. Have fun with it.
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Originally Posted by GordoTrek
im going to pick it up on saturday, its my size so i can't pass it up.. it has the 531 sticker on the frame and fork,, so that means the stays are hi-ten?
Read the 531 sticker carefully. You may have full straight gauge 531, for example, like my 1959 Capo. (The 1960, a slightly different model, is double-butted.)
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Originally Posted by jeirvine
Get it. Great riding bikes. The English ones were DB 531 frame/fork, though most did not have forged drops. (I think '73s sometimes came with Zeus forged drops.) 80's Japanese ones were not 531. I love love love mine: ...
That is a keeper!!!! Very nice.
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im going to pick it up on saturday, its my size so i can't pass it up.. it has the 531 sticker on the frame and fork,, so that means the stays are hi-ten?
Probably, but you will NEVER know the difference. Which is to say, what difference does it make?

Just ride it.

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FYI, I'm overhauling a 1973 +/- for a friend and it has tubular GP4 rims on Campy hubs. Bought clinchers and looking for someone to rebuild the wheels.
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ive wanted to build up a nice english bike with campy for a while, there are some campy bits at my coop, this might be build im waiting for, ill keep the simplex on there in the meantime
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I feel like the beautiful frame with the stamped steel dropouts begs for some creative builds! Sometimes I feel a bit silly with my fixed gear wheel in the beautiful Campagnolo dropouts on my Carlton. But such a build, or an IGH, would be completely guilt free on a Gran Sport, and probably just as fun!
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In terms of hierarchy, in 1973 it was below the Competition and above the Super Course:



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Originally Posted by rhm
Buy it.
NOW!!!

One of the most attractive and balanced mid-range 10-speeds from the 70's, IMO. Components from the factory are all over the map, so keep what you like, and change what you like. Extra points if you keep them period correct.
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PUSH,PUSH.... congratulations, you have a new Raleigh Gran Sport !
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I would have bought it for three times that amount.
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a HUNNERT bucks. .?
This thread should be titled ""look at the great deal I just scored!"
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Originally Posted by GordoTrek
im going to pick it up on saturday, its my size so i can't pass it up.. it has the 531 sticker on the frame and fork,, so that means the stays are hi-ten?
Catalogs for 72 and 73 say 531 db main tubes + fork. In 74 they went to full 531 incl. stays.
Retro Raleighs

Either way, great bike.
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"Azure blue head tube". Those four words are worth that price of admission. Don't wuss out on us (maybe this is the kind of motivation you need).
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