I have two '74 Peugeots.

It might well have been a Reynolds thing, but there was also just the very classy/classic look of three clips along the top tube for many higher-end bikes.

If I recall correctly, the entire P*-10 series, from PA-10 through PX-10, had clamp-on shift levers, triple brake cable clamps, and integral Simplex derailleur hangers.

It is too bad that frame is too tall for you -- that is a fine-looking bike, and it would be great w/o the dork disk.

The PA10 has the same funky one sided shifter boss setup as the early UO-8's. They use top tube cable clips, but the frame is not Reynolds.

Thanx, and that disk would be the first thing coming off.

I bought my PX-10 new from the dealer in 1972. There is no doubt that my PX-10 is genuine.

It has front and rear fender eyelets. I can only vouch for this one example.

There are lower end Peugeots with 531 main triangle only. They also have 531 decals. There are at least two different 531 decals. One is for 531 main tubes and the other is for 531 throughout. The PX-10 had the decal with the numerals "531" printed on a 45 degree diagonal, meaning all 531 tubes.

Are "fork brazes" the same thing as fender eyelets? I can't say I've ever hard the term. The eyelets a part of the dropouts and fork ends, so I see no sense in calling them braze-ons.

sure. i had one. but it didn't have chromed rear stays. that's why i asked about the combination of 531 frameset (not merely the triangle) and chromed stays.

and the pkn10 is a 531 triangle with top tube brazes and the one shifter boss.

What about the fork brazes? Please tell me what you mean by that. I'm confused. Braze is a verb.

Yes and a decal on fork blades near crown.

The bike in question is a late 70's PX10 but I think the OP already confirmed this with date codes.

In general '79 and older PX10's only have a small nub braze-on under the DT to position the shifters and a rear derailleur cable stop on the chain stay. I do NOT consider the fork end and dropout eyelets to be braze-on's only because they're forged into the end/drop out versus being added on.

Decals: Peugeot began using that style of decal in 1974 and it over lapped for a year or two with the previous style.

It's very well accepted that 1974 U.S. PX10's had the style decal as seen in post #3 .

"Decals: Peugeot began using that style of decal in 1974 and it over lapped for a year or two with the previous style."

that explains that. thanks.

I came up with the different 'types' on my own to better differentiate between the different styles. Within each 'type' there are many different variations.

Notice that head tube and seat tube decal 'types' didn't always change at the same time. The chart below is for decals used worldwide, not just in the U.S.

Type I is 60's triangle style
Type II is early 70's style square-ish style
Type III is late late rectangle style


http://cyclespeugeot.com/sitebuilder...ne-784x315.png

You guys have been very helpful. Very interesting info!

That's only the second black PX10 I've ever seen with original paint. I don't know why they weren't more popular. It's a great color on them.

Agreed. Makes the chrome stand out, too. I just checked and my friend has the original Ideale saddle in good condition.

Hi!

I have the same question for this model. It is a PX10 or PXN10, or other Peugeot model?

Can someone help me, please?

Thank you

Just by seeing the "turkey levers" indicates another model, other than a PX. Strange to see them on a full 531 frame, though. Peugeots are complicated like that. Seems to be a touring model of sorts.

...I don't think it's a PX, but can't tell from the photos.

Worth noting is that because the MAFAC centerpull brakes have no quick release in them,
a lot of levers got switched out over the years for things like Weinmann levers that did,
and even the low end Weinmann levers with "safety" levers have a qr.

Yes, it appears to be a PX10. Brake levers are seat post have been changed...

1. Look at the frame tubing. 531 with diagonal writing? Check.
2. Lack of braze-ons with the exception of a RD cable stop and little nub for the shifters? Check.

There's always exceptions to the rule but if a Peugeot frame has those two features more than likely its a PX10. This frame also has the proper lugs and fork crown, seat stay caps, crankset and brake calipers.

Thanks to MiamiJim for piping in. Whenever I see painted chainstays, I'm unsure if it's a PX or not, but I guess the rule of thumb is that chromed stays likely indicate a PX, while painted don't exclude that possibility.
Peugeot seems to have worked at making model ID difficult for us! :rolleyes:

the braze-on rule must apply only to certain years.

1983
http://cyclespeugeot.com/images/1983...PX10_PZ10D.jpg

This ^ is why Peugeot identification is so maddening! In all but a few years, they never thought to put model names on their bikes like everyone else did.:notamused:

In general the braze on rule applies to '78/79 models and older....pretty much anything with the decal schemes seen here.

Dont look to deep into ID'ing a Peugeot. I look for details that say it's particular model versus looking for details which say its not. For instance the bike in post #43 , safety/extension/turkey levers doesnt mean it's NOT a PX10 but 531 diagonal decals and a lack of braze ons does.