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Old 07-24-14, 11:41 AM
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Grandis bike at my local pawn

i usually avoid pawn shops in my area like the plague.. .usually overpriced bsos, the last time i visited they had a mid 90s magna for 150 bucks!! but for some reason i stopped by again over the weekend..
they directed me to the storage shed where they keep all of their bikes.. i walked in and spyed a bunch of hybrids and low end mountain bikes, they had a few vintage steel bikes hanging so i took a closer look.

first one.. a fuji grand tourer se.. pass.. second one a U08..pass... third one ... a green and blue frame and i can't make out the name.. i notice the columbus sticker on the seat tube, and i ask to have a look at it.


upon closer inspection i see that its a Grandis... i know its italian so i start looking over the components.. campy hubs.. all shimano 105 drivetrain and brakes.. it was my size but they wanted 525 for it... i walked back in side and the owner says he could go down to 450 because he knows its a collectible... grr. i told him i would think about it... wish i took pictures oh well.. just thought i would share
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It might be desirable to someone who knows what a Grandis is... but how many people do? I don't think I ever heard of before I started posing here.

Do they a website? I would go go back in a month and see if they still have it and offer 200. If it is in the storage shed who sees it?
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they always post crap on CL and ive never seen this one... i should go offer 200.. not a bad idea
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A pawnshop is going to have a hard time selling a high dollar vintage bike. I'll bet most of their customers prefer a BSO to a vintage racing bike. A pawnshop owner, unlike CL sellers, has an incentive to drop his prices after a while since he or she needs to move inventory. Plus the bike may well be overpriced at $525.
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I did email back the local auction site that unknown Celeste bianchi on consignment for $3000. I was hoping that someone had come to their senses, but haven't heard back.
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i really don't know much about them, i know grandis frames are nice, but i didn't see a model, or a similar version on the web... everything ive read says they are nice frames and ebay only has a few auctions as a reference
so i have no real idea if the price is too high or not...425 seems high with shimano 105
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Originally Posted by GordoTrek
i really don't know much about them, i know grandis frames are nice, but i didn't see a model, or a similar version on the web... everything ive read says they are nice frames and ebay only has a few auctions as a reference
so i have no real idea if the price is too high or not...425 seems high with shimano 105
As long as it fits you and the frame is straight, I would play poker with that shop owner.

Don't forget that cash talks. Walk in there with $350 and not a penny more.

I would have left there with the bike.

Next step is to pull off everything down to the frameset.

You should be able to sell a complete 105 group with a wheelset for $100.

Now you are down to $250 for a nice Italian frameset.

Actually a premiere Italian marque. That could be the basis for one heck of a nice long term project.

Sounds like fun.
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^+1. Grandis is a great marque. (Btw, many low-volume, handmade Italian brands do not have model designations.) The BB should be Italian, in which case the BB may be the original (Campy, most likely) and not Shimano 105. Deduct the resale value of the parts/wheels, and $425 minus haggling is not high at all.
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Agree with GMG and gaucho - 425 for a Grandis frame? Not bad.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
A pawnshop is going to have a hard time selling a high dollar vintage bike. I'll bet most of their customers prefer a BSO to a vintage racing bike. A pawnshop owner, unlike CL sellers, has an incentive to drop his prices after a while since he or she needs to move inventory. Plus the bike may well be overpriced at $525.
Especially if it has tubulars from that venue.
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We have a forum member that recently acquired a Grandis. Just wait for him.
I think his came with Campy.
Purchased in the hot, greater Seattle market.

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That would be me

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...dis-style.html

For the record, I paid $500 for the bike (definitely worth it) and an additional $300 for a pile of spare wheels and parts (probably worth it in a sell-it-off-on-eBay sense, but no great garage sale bargain.) I've kept all those spares because I can use them someday.

And yes, the Seattle area is a really hot market, but Port Townsend is not exactly a 15 min drive from there, so it would take someone with some knowledge to go after a bike like this, in such a large size to maximize the sale price.

Basically I gave guy what he was asking, and it's my most expensive bike purchase ever. It's got all the campy bits except brakes and levers (Gran Compe) and it rides really nice. I think he was kind of lucky to find me, without having to bother to advertise (other than an initial enquiry here on BF) and I was lucky to find him, since it's a terrific and unusual bike in nice shape for a decent price.

Not your average pawn shop purchase experience. Play hardball with that guy, you're his only customer for that old bike.
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
That would be me

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...dis-style.html

For the record, I paid $500 for the bike (definitely worth it) and an additional $300 for a pile of spare wheels and parts (probably worth it in a sell-it-off-on-eBay sense, but no great garage sale bargain.) I've kept all those spares because I can use them someday.

And yes, the Seattle area is a really hot market, but Port Townsend is not exactly a 15 min drive from there, so it would take someone with some knowledge to go after a bike like this, in such a large size to maximize the sale price.

Basically I gave guy what he was asking, and it's my most expensive bike purchase ever. It's got all the campy bits except brakes and levers (Gran Compe) and it rides really nice. I think he was kind of lucky to find me, without having to bother to advertise (other than an initial enquiry here on BF) and I was lucky to find him, since it's a terrific and unusual bike in nice shape for a decent price.

Not your average pawn shop purchase experience. Play hardball with that guy, you're his only customer for that old bike.
Yours cleaned up nicely.

Such a beautiful bicycle.

@op Your path is clear. $350 in pocket and wave it under the shop keep's nose. You likely won't get a second chance, as they are tricky to find.
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Can't wait to see some pics once it's cleaned up...
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Older Grandis bikes are very nice, the one I have rides beautifully and has many lovely little touches. Post a pic of the bike if you can.



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Originally Posted by Pogliaghi
Older Grandis bikes are very nice, the one I have rides beautifully and has many lovely little touches. Post a pic of the bike if you can.



You have some lovely bikes; we have similar taste.
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Originally Posted by Pogliaghi
Older Grandis bikes are very nice, the one I have rides beautifully and has many lovely little touches. Post a pic of the bike if you can.
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That is an attractive fork rake.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
You have some lovely bikes; we have similar taste.
Yes we do. I like your Sachs and the Picchio!
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