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Oddball Look 753 on Ebay

Old 07-24-14, 02:02 PM
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Oddball Look 753 on Ebay

Just a PSA of sorts: There's an oddball "La Vie Claire" Look 753 on ebay now:

Vintage 57cm Look Hinault La Vie Claire Road Bike | eBay

It's pretty clear to me the bike has been repainted. Mostly obviously, the logo on the downtube is wrong. There is also no headbadge (sticker) or tubing decal, missing "made in France" on nds chain stay, missing "Equipe" sticker on top tube, colors seem darker than they should be, base color appears more white than pearl, angle of the black border to the red painted section is off, paint over (chromed) dropouts, etc. That said, the rest of the frame details seem consistent with other Look 753s. I did request a serial number and photo of the BB from the seller and asked to confirm that it's a repaint and who did the repaint. My guess is that this may actually be a Look 753 that has been repainted.

Btw, seller notes this bike is set up with a 2x9 drivetrain, which would require a 130mm rear hub. If this is indeed a Look 753 frameset, as I believe, it is not recommended to cold set Reynolds 753 frames. I'd want to double check spacing and look for any potential cracks in the rear triangle.

Strange mix of parts. Could be a worthwhile restoration project, though a professional repaint would be quite expensive (Joe Bell once gave me a ballpark estimate of ~1k for mine because of all the masking and number of colors involved).
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Old 07-28-14, 10:29 PM
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you mentioned the spacing required on a rear hub, im kind of fly by night with that... any decent links to where i might find info on correct choices for those? i use an 8 speed block on my reynolds 531cs racer but i dont think it stretches the chainstay or seatstay, though i do notice a slight wobble in the stability... i guess id like to know more about the proper sizing for these
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Old 07-28-14, 10:44 PM
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The proper spacing for these Look frames is 126mm.

The tubing is Reynolds 753r, which is a different animal from 531. I'm not a metalurgist, framebuilder, etc. but I know it is not advised cold set 753 tubing. Most reports I've read say that it is very resistant to respacing/cold setting--i.e. to 130mm for 8/9/10/11-speeds--and it will usually spring back into it's original 126mm form or result in damaged/crimped stays.

FWIW, someone got a heck of a nice bike for $660. The repaint was not executed very well, but I do believe it is a legit Look 753 frame with a hodgepodge of resalable parts.

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Old 07-28-14, 11:04 PM
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I would guess the actuall frame spaceing is 128mm with give meaning one could mount nearly anything on it..
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^No sense guessing. The original spacing is 126mm. These frames were made in '86 when 6-speeds still ruled the world.
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Another interesting Look just surfaced on ebay. This one features an unusual paint scheme with triangular panels similar to what you see on the carbon Look/TVT KG86 framesets. Frame looks to be in decent shape, notwithstanding some touch-ups, particularly around seat cluster. All of the frame details match the details on my Look 753.



Look Early Production Bernard Hinault Reynolds 753 Road Frameset 57 cm Pearl | eBay

It is also interesting to read the seller's note:
"Built by Le Jeune in France for Look. There has been much speculation on the actual builder, but as the mechanic who orginally built this bike back in the 80's along with many others I can attest to the packing cartons had "LeJeune" on them. Well, at least the ones we sold did."


I have read a lot of speculation about who built these frames, from Lejeune, to Cyfac, Gitane, Hinault's personal mechanic, Rossin (very unlikely IMO), among others. If you trust this seller, this is at least one added data point for Lejeune.

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Funny thing about these Look 753 frames, they just don't seem to fetch much money on ebay. Many who own them claim they are the best riding vintage bike around. Check out 'The Collector' on the Rapha video site for one testimonial. If you are into cycling from the 80's it is the dream bike to own.
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This is my Look. It is also a repaint, better than the original. The factory decals seem to disintegrate.
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