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Old 07-26-14, 12:14 PM
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1950/51 Shelby Traveler by Herc...1954

Wife was at an estate sale today... SCORE! (both the wife and the bike)

The gentleman it belonged to is 73 years old and got it when he was 10 years old. Been in storage for around 50 years.

Missing the pump, saddle bag, rear reflector and the chain guard, but otherwise all original.

Let the fun begin.

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That does look like a fun project.
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Cool, I have never seen one of those shelby lightweights. That one looks to be their top model lightweight.
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Originally Posted by schwinnderella
Cool, I have never seen one of those shelby lightweights. That one looks to be their top model lightweight.
It is... this is a catalog page from 1956. It was $83.50 then, that would work out to around $80 in 1951 and over $700 today.

Is that a sales flyer you have? I hate that the chain guard is missing, something tells me sourcing one is going to be difficult. I will probably use a Wald Chrome one for now.

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Nice score, I hope your wife has seen the thread? If not, I think she would get a kick out of your little love hearts!.
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Originally Posted by Bicycle Addict
Nice score, I hope your wife has seen the thread? If not, I think she would get a kick out of your little love hearts!.
She is not a huge bicycle person. She also knows she is loved ... though sometimes she claims I love the dog more than her

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My wife says the same thing, in a joke response I tell her its probably true, softening it with "At least you will be around for longer" I really like the fact I can laugh with her.
Good luck on the rebuild, I will be watching the tidy up
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Awesome score - I can't believe how slack that frame looks! The chainguard will indeed be the hardest but perhaps the network of folks here that go to "autojumbles" in the UK can keep a sharp eye out.
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Nice score Aaron. Looking forward to seeing it all cleaned up... Does it have a Hercules hub? A Type or B Type? That'll help narrow the year.
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Originally Posted by schwinnderella
Cool, I have never seen one of those shelby lightweights. That one looks to be their top model lightweight.
Actually, I'm pretty sure the Kestrel was their top model. They had it in a club style bicycle and then in a tourist style, though the Shelby Traveler may have come preceded the Kestrel touring model. The Kestrel was made from Reynolds 531 straight gauge tubing.
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[QUOTE=wahoonc;16977345]It is... this is a catalog page from 1956. It was $83.50 then, that would work out to around $80 in 1951 and over $700 today.

Is that a sales flyer you have? I hate that the chain guard is missing, something tells me sourcing one is going to be difficult. I will probably use a Wald Chrome one for now.

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Yes the pictures are from a shelby lightweight brochure,dated 1955 on the back.
Yea bummer on the missing guard.
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Originally Posted by photogravity
Nice score Aaron. Looking forward to seeing it all cleaned up... Does it have a Hercules hub? A Type or B Type? That'll help narrow the year.
Have to check, it is definitely a Hercules hub.

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Originally Posted by photogravity
Actually, I'm pretty sure the Kestrel was their top model. They had it in a club style bicycle and then in a tourist style, though the Shelby Traveler may have come preceded the Kestrel touring model. The Kestrel was made from Reynolds 531 straight gauge tubing.
I believe that the model the original poster has was the top model built by hercules and badged as a shelby at least at the time. I do not believe that hercules made a kestral model for shelby.
Yes you are correct the kestral and super kestral (Depending on the year) were the top lightweights built by hercules and badged as hercules.
The following are from a hercules catalog which I believe is a 1950 catalog. At least in 1950 it looks like the super kestral was the top hercules model, likely before 1950 the kestal was the top model.
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Originally Posted by schwinnderella
I believe that the model the original poster has was the top model built by hercules and badged as a shelby at least at the time. I do not believe that hercules made a kestral model for shelby.
Yes you are correct the kestral and super kestral (Depending on the year) were the top lightweights built by hercules and badged as hercules.
The following are from a hercules catalog which I believe is a 1950 catalog. At least in 1950 it looks like the super kestral was the top hercules model, likely before 1950 the kestal was the top model.
I think that the Kestrel Super Club was even higher end than the Kestrel Club... The Kestrel Super Club was almost surely Reynolds 531 DB (look at the weight difference between the Kestrel Club - 28 lbs. and Super Club - 23 3/4 lbs.) and had the fender stays mounted mid-way as was typical of the really high-end clubman cycles of the day, like the Norman Rapide, Raleigh RRA and Raleigh Clubman.
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Originally Posted by photogravity
Nice score Aaron. Looking forward to seeing it all cleaned up... Does it have a Hercules hub? A Type or B Type? That'll help narrow the year.
Scrubbed the grub off the hub. It is a B Type 4.

I am buried in getting my son's Giant Melbourne tuned up and off the repair stand so it can make the northbound Amtrak tomorrow morning for Boston. I need to quit messing with this modern stuff.

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1950/51 Shelby Traveler by Herc...

Aaron, it's a 1954 *if* it's the original wheel. There's no reason to believe it isn't the original. If anything it would have been replaced by a wheel with a SA hub.
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Aaron, it's a 1954 *if* it's the original wheel. There's no reason to believe it isn't the original. If anything it would have been replaced by a wheel with a SA hub.
Thanks! I guess either the guy's memory is a bit off or it may have been his brother's bike. He did say they had similar bikes and the brother is a bit younger.

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Originally Posted by photogravity
I think that the Kestrel Super Club was even higher end than the Kestrel Club... The Kestrel Super Club was almost surely Reynolds 531 DB (look at the weight difference between the Kestrel Club - 28 lbs. and Super Club - 23 3/4 lbs.) and had the fender stays mounted mid-way as was typical of the really high-end clubman cycles of the day, like the Norman Rapide, Raleigh RRA and Raleigh Clubman.
Not to be-labor the point but those catalog pages say that both models - Kestrel Super Club and Kestrel Club - are made from Reynolds 531 steel. Am I missing something; for instance, are there varying grades of 531?
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Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate
Not to be-labor the point but those catalog pages say that both models - Kestrel Super Club and Kestrel Club - are made from Reynolds 531 steel. Am I missing something; for instance, are there varying grades of 531?
It's a good question actually. There is straight-gauge 531 and there is butted 531. Butted tubing results in a lighter frame than straight-gauge tubes. Of course, there were also component differences between the Super Club and the Club models that accounted for some of the weight differential between the two.

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According to Wikipedia (I know a VERY reliable source ) There were 11 different types of 531 tube sets. I also believe they made single strength, butted and double butted.

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