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Old 02-17-18, 04:20 PM
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As bakery owners, we go through 2 digital scales per year. If you want accuracy in a hanging scale, expect to pay about $300, entry level. The margin of error in cheap scales are significant when you get into the >10kg range.

Because of our fine baking techniques and quality scales, I can confidently say I'm 235 lbs so I don't even try to build sub-20 lb bikes.
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My 2000 Koga Miyata Full Pro Oval sits at 19lbs with clinchers.
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Old 02-17-18, 08:11 PM
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@clubman, your scales wear out that fast? Did the old analog ones wear out as fast? What are the signs of a worn scale?
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Old 02-17-18, 08:28 PM
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@noglider We generally drop them about 5 or 6 times and then they're done at about $40 a pop. We have one hi-end "for trade" scale for portioning out frozen entrees, etc for wholesale and satisfying Food Inspectors but the others are general use throw-them-around-the-counters. The good scale is treated with kid gloves and gets recalibrated.

You know those old balance scales with weights are perfectly suited to scaling doughs for breads. They're just bloody heavy and eat counter space in a very small kitchen. If we produced 500 loaves a day then that's a great way to go, as many old world bakerys do. We do 50 on our busiest day of the week.

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Old 02-17-18, 10:10 PM
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Not vintage, but steel, but utterly meaningless.....



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Last time I checked (before switching to anatomic bend C/F bars & DA 7800 shifters), my Buenos Aires clocked in at just a shade under 19 lbs. It might be a tad lighter now, but I'd rather take the weight off of me, rather than the bike.

Current set-up: Thomson stem & seatpost; Selle Italia saddle; Look fork; Crank Bros. pedals (I was never too keen on the Ultegra SPDs shown here); full DT Swiss wheelset; gruppo is a DA 7700/ 7800 mix.
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Old 02-18-18, 11:28 AM
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23lbs... could def shave some weight with a lighter wheelset, these feel like tanks
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Originally Posted by ceelint View Post
23lbs... could def shave some weight with a lighter wheelset, these feel like tanks
Wheelset
Crankset
BB
Saddle
Seatpost

Generally, in that order, you can drop weight.

It still surprises me when I see any C&V steel build under 20 lbs, such as the Buenos Ares above, especially with non-external BB's and cranksets. The key, perhaps, on that one, is use of DA and light wheels.

When I do see sub-20lb lugged steel bikes, they are pleasant surprises. At NAHBS in Charlotte, I think it was Ellis that had a sub-17 lugged steel bike (DA 7700 Anniversary group).

I struggled mightily over the years to build a sub-20lb lugged steel bike, achieving same only with one Ironman and a Simoncini, and achieved only with modern components. I finally stopped worrying about it and made sure the fit was dialed in and the components worked correctly, and that pretty much removed any thoughts from my head on the matter.

When I've gotten together with many C&V members over the years, on hilly courses, mountain courses, and flat courses, weight is almost never a topic of conversation. But it's cool to know.
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Not vintage, but steel, but utterly meaningless.....

Until you ride it, then life is meaningful, and I'm with you. 16.34 lbs.
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Old 02-18-18, 05:01 PM
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not really c&v
18 lbs as pictured, still needs bar tape
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Just under 20, 19.88lbs. 2006 Bianchi 'Pinella' Boron, Bianchi carbon forks (is that cheating?) w/ 96 Record Titanium, Mavic wheelset, ITM Millennium stem, ITM Europa 2 bars, Triomphe aero pedals.
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Old 02-19-18, 03:10 AM
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I have three steel bikes now at the same weight. The Peugeot PSV (Used to be 19.75 pounds but recently gained a bit of weight from apparently, heavier components I installed since.), the Gitane TdF and the Bottecchia Chorus SL. I was surprised that the Italian bike is the same weight (exactly 20 pounds) as the two French bikes, as the French bikes have very light Supervitus tubed frames, while the Italian has Columbus SL, plus the Campy Chorus components that were not know to be that light. The Bottecchia is 2cm smaller than the two French bikes. Is that enough to even things up? I didn't think so, but I guess, it does.
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2000 Bianchi XL Boron, full carbon fork, Campy Chorus size 54cm. Weighs 18lbs with Speedplay titanium pedals.
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Early 80's Super Mondia 60 cm with Reynolds 531 Spl Ltwt tubing weighed 19.5 lbs.
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Old 04-15-21, 12:53 PM
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Would you believe this old Italian road bike, made with "gas pipe" tubing (the gas part makes it really light) and perforated steel rims comes in a 19 pounds and a bit)..?

Credit, for the lightness must also be given to the "wing nuts" which further reduces the bikes weight as it flies a inch or so from the ground...


Needless to say, I just jest about the weights but, in all honesty, I would like to purchase one of those magic scales that seem to be everywhere except my place...
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Old 04-15-21, 07:32 PM
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Would you believe this old Italian road bike, made with "gas pipe" tubing (the gas part makes it really light) and perforated steel rims comes in a 19 pounds and a bit)..?

Credit, for the lightness must also be given to the "wing nuts" which further reduces the bikes weight as it flies a inch or so from the ground...


Needless to say, I just jest about the weights but, in all honesty, I would like to purchase one of those magic scales that seem to be everywhere except my place...
I hear you. My 54 cm SL Team Champion with a ti rail saddle and tubulars is still over 21.
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With MTB pedals and the pump, my sons Serotta weighs 20 pounds and six ounces. Could probably be under 20 with a different saddle and pedals.

Considering that he weighs about a buck ten soaking wet, I think we're good.
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Bit to late to the party but my ex Sanson team Moser (frames a bit special being made by Ugo De Rosa himself) comes in at 19.8ib`s and has record groupset and period parts - rides rather nicely as well...

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