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Old 08-19-14, 02:12 AM
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If you could have one question magically answered about a bike in your stable...

Perhaps a bit abstract and fluffy, but this question just sort of popped into mind this afternoon... If you had access to a C&V genie / planchette / magic-8-ball / whatever that could answer a single question about the history of one of the bikes in your stable - what would it be?

In my case, it would be regarding my '75 Fuji Pro. It's a dedicated crit bike that I bought locally here in Los Gatos, CA. Nothing is really known about it's individual history other than it had been a former fixie conversion that sat for the last eight years in a garage before I built it back up. I'd be curious to know whether or not it was raced in the 1978 Cat's Hill Criterium here in town. Los Gatos only had ~20,000 residents at the time, and the field of that race in the early years appears to have been populated with a lot of local cyclists. Did my stalwart commuter once cross foils with a young Greg Lemond?
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Old 08-19-14, 02:20 AM
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i'd love to see video of past owners on my bikes... my uncle's old one in particular that he rode across the country and raced... but, really, all of them. especially on the day they were born and bought.
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I have a mystery frame with nice lugs whose maker I haven't been able to identify, and I just want to know who made the lugs, since they're stamped with some sort of maker's stamp, nicely cast, and very nicely filed. 3 years of searching has given me almost no info except a possible country of origin.
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I would love to know the history of my Puch Starleight Reynolds 531 frame.
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Old 08-19-14, 04:30 AM
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I have so many questions it would be hard for me to settle on just one. Is the Motobecane really a '74 CT? What was the reason for the repaint and choice of frame details? How did the fork come to need re-alignment? Was it raced seriously as I suspect, and what if anything is the owner riding now? How did the Masi come to be abandoned in a college dorm? Who built it and for whom? How was it ridden, especially regarding the moderate abuse it suffered? How did the Raleigh come to be left in a storage room at Harris Cyclery?
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I supose the oldest might be the best candidate. My 72 Le Champion was purchased by me when it was a year, maybe year and a half old. I know most of its history. What I don't know is why the PO put a rear rack and kick stand on it and swapped the rims for clinchers!

Next would be the 73 Bottecchia Giro, just purchased. The PO found it under a staircase in a house, peroid.

Third would be the '83 Colnago. Sold in Bolder, CO, how was it equiped? Was it raced? How many miles are on it really? Who were the PO's

Fourth would be the Pinarello Tre Cime. When was it built? Which group did it have originally and what kind of POS PO treated it so bad and why? Is it really a Tre Cime?
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Old 08-19-14, 06:37 AM
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I'd want to know where and when Bauer rode the Merckx.
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Old 08-19-14, 06:45 AM
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My 1960 Capo came to me with bent-back Campag. downtube shift levers, a 58-45 ringset, and a bike license sticker covering the Reynolds 531 decal. Why, why, and why?
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On the other hand I think it would also be cool if the original owners could see their bike now! I have two cast-off Raleighs - a 85 Olympian and a 89 technium that I have put over 5000 miles on. I would hope they would like it that their old steeds are well taken care of and enjoying lots of use.
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Old 08-19-14, 07:34 AM
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Why is there a short, loose wooden plug in my PX10's steerer? I don't buy the story that it was put there to keep the fork from separating if the steerer breaks. It's too short and too loose to do that. The idea that it's there to keep water out of the steerer doesn't make sense to me either, since it would trap water that enters from the top.
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Old 08-19-14, 07:41 AM
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I would like to ask the original owner of my 1992 Chris Kvale what he purchased to replace this beauty?
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Old 08-19-14, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois View Post
Why is there a short, loose wooden plug in my PX10's steerer? I don't buy the story that it was put there to keep the fork from separating if the steerer breaks. It's too short and too loose to do that. The idea that it's there to keep water out of the steerer doesn't make sense to me either, since it would trap water that enters from the top.
I believe I've seen this discussed before, and one of the logical theories advanced is the wooden plug is there to strengthen the steerer at the location of highest stress.
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Old 08-19-14, 08:55 AM
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I would like to know the race history of my Mexico. The original rider (Danny Van Baelen) doesn't show much/any race history for the year of the bike ('83 - his only year with Boule d'Or), but the bike was clearly raced hard during its 31yrs to date.

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I believe I've seen this discussed before, and one of the logical theories advanced is the wooden plug is there to strengthen the steerer at the location of highest stress.
I've seen it discussed here more than once. I guess I didn't make it clear that none of the explanations I've read here make sense to me.

Using wood to strengthen steel seems logical to you?
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois View Post
I've seen it discussed here more than once. I guess I didn't make it clear that none of the explanations I've read here make sense to me.

Using wood to strengthen steel seems logical to you?
This is probably a stupid guess - but maybe vibration dampening that would decrease fatigue on the steerer?
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
This is probably a stupid guess - but maybe vibration dampening that would decrease fatigue on the steerer?
That's one I haven't read before and I don't think it's stupid at all.
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Well then, what is your theory, Grand Bois?

I'm not sure I buy any of the proposed explanations either. BTW, every French bike I have, 4 only, came with one of these little wooden plugs in the steerer. Moisture trap. Every one of the steerers had slight rust that had developed between the wooden plug and the steerer tube.

BTW. It may be loose because the wood has shrunk over time. At least two of mine were in there tightly.

I think the French put them there just to fug with our heads.

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Old 08-19-14, 09:42 AM
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I guess I'd like to know…exactly what year was this bike made? Not all that important but, kind of fun to know.
Some bikes can be dated to the exact year, but most cannot.
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I'd like to know why my Raleigh Team Pro SB2091 decaled 753 has fully drilled NDS rear dropout but DS dropout with only Portacatena drilling, and why the seattube O.D. is >28.6mm.
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I just want to know why someone painted over my raleigh pro with a hideous mustard and ketchup.

That mink blue and silver is my favorite paint job ever.
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Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
Well then, what is your theory, Grand Bois?

I'm not sure I buy any of the proposed explanations either. BTW, every French bike I have, 4 only, came with one of these little wooden plugs in the steerer. Moisture trap. Every one of the steerers had slight rust that had developed between the wooden plug and the steerer tube.

BTW. It may be loose because the wood has shrunk over time. At least two of mine were in there tightly.

I think the French put them there just to fug with our heads.

I dig your new Bullwinkle avatar.
I'm at a loss to explain it. That's why I posted.

I have three other French bikes, but I haven't checked them for plugs. I just noticed it on the PX10 because I cold hear it rattling around in there when I took it apart to have it painted. It's not hard to believe that the plug has shrunk after 40 years.

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Yours may have shrunk and came loose but I have had bikes where that piece of wood is so hard that it took me hours to remove it. Back in the day if there was a fork failure it was at the steerer/crown join and the dowel really stiffened things up. Also made the front end a little more "tight".

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I've seen it discussed here more than once. I guess I didn't make it clear that none of the explanations I've read here make sense to me.

Using wood to strengthen steel seems logical to you?
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Back in the day if there was a fork failure it was at the steerer/crown join and the dowel really stiffened things up. Also made the front end a little more "tight".
That's exactly the kind of statement I'm talking about.
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Come on...why did ya slop on the black paint and drill the brakebridge?

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Originally Posted by Grand Bois View Post
Why is there a short, loose wooden plug in my PX10's steerer? I don't buy the story that it was put there to keep the fork from separating if the steerer breaks. It's too short and too loose to do that. The idea that it's there to keep water out of the steerer doesn't make sense to me either, since it would trap water that enters from the top.
I believe these were used to keep water from entering the bottom of the steerer which is a bigger issue than water coming in from the top which tends to be better sealed. Similar plugs were used in older open seatposts to keep water from getting into the frame when the rear wheel threw water under the saddle.

I have plugged steerers with cork for this very reason as washout of the grease in the lower bearing is a serious problem and the upper bearings rarely suffer from this... the wood would also absorb moisture and the fact they shrink indicates a more porous / softer wood was used rather than a hardwood.

It also seems to be something you see on racing bicycles that are run without fenders... my 1957 PLX (fendered) has no plug and I have never come across these in fendered bicycles.
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