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Old 09-01-14, 10:04 AM
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Any idea what model this is?

Hello all, I am a first time poster. I just got back into biking after a 15 year break since i got my drivers license. My mother in law found this bike in the Alabama woods near her home. It has been sitting in her garden as decoration for a few years. It is in rough shape but I am going to see about restoring it. All i know is that it is an A. Sutter from France and i'm not sure if it is a date stamp but the only numbers i can find are 75 on the frame near the fork. How can I identify this bike in more detail? Also, Once i strip it down to sand how can I check for internal rust and how bad it is?

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Old 09-01-14, 10:43 AM
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there was an importation of Sutter bicycles into the United States during the bicycle boom of the early 1970's. every example i have seen has been yellow but certainly there must have been other colours as well. the "75" you found is not a date but an angle in degrees.

the magazine "Bicycling!" did an in depth review of a Sutter bicycle in the early '70's. do not recall the exact year; it would have been roughly ~1973. your example dates from somewhere between 1971 and 1974. if someone has scanned the back numbers of this magazine into a data base you might be able to look it up on an index. do not know if such exists.

the machine does not merit a great deal of investment of time or funds. would suggest doing the mechanicals to get it operating well and ignoring the rust on the frame. it has gone under the paint finish so you would need to sand blast the frame to get rid of it. refinishing the frame is more than is really worth doing, unless of course you are keen on a full restoration...

the most important question to ask when contemplating a project of this type, if one plans to retain the completed bicycle, is "is it the right size for the intended user?" from the photos the frame appears to be a fairly large one of perhaps 63 or 64 cm. this size is appropriate to a person in excess of six feet in height.

some of the fittings on the bicycle are not original to it. the handlebar stem, cranks and pedals are rock bottom asian ones that are replacements. the handlebar stem is concerning in that it is likely a diameter where it enters the frame of 22.2mm. the frame is intended for a handlebar stem with a diamerter of 22.0mm so someone has either forced a too large part in there or has reduced it to fit. if forced in it may have cracked the fork's steerer (fork tube). the handlebar is original to the bicycle.

it appears someone may have fitted airless tires to the bicycle's wheels. these give a heavy and dead ride in exchange for eliminating the possibility of punctures.

there is a bit of information on the company here -

SUTTER

if you would like to see other Sutter bicycles and see what yours would have looked like when new there are some photos at google images and flickr, among other locations.

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Old 09-01-14, 10:45 AM
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From what I can see (stamped dropouts, suicide levers, etc) it is probably an entry level bicycle. I'm sure someone here knows more about Sutton bikes but right off the bat I wouldn't invest too much into in. Some detailed pictures of some of the components, headbadge, etc would help those much more knowledgeable then me in identifying it.

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Thanks. I will get more pics of it once I get back home. I should be able to get it blasted for free if I don't find anything wrong so I hope it will kit cost too much to get it going.
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This could be made into a singlespeed on the cheap but anything beyond that would be like pouring money down a hole. I've done that too many times to recommend others doing it.
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Thanks. I will get more pics of it once I get back home. I should be able to get it blasted for free if I don't find anything wrong so I hope it will kit cost too much to get it going.
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since you are going to refinish you will be doing a complete disassembly. one thing you will want to do while it is completely apart is to apply a rustproofing treatment to the interior of the frame.

if you want transfers you could try contacting the importer in florida. have no idea if they are still going. heck, its only been forty years!

the forum had a thread about two years back on a Sutter frame which is a model or two above yours and right from the same time as your bicycle. it is in original finish so you may wish to take a look -

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ellerault.html
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see T-Mar's comments here:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...de-france.html

Your model is the "sports" that he talks about in this thread.
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