Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Fuji Saratoga?

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Fuji Saratoga?

Old 09-04-14, 08:24 AM
  #1  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Fuji Saratoga?

I found a 91 Fuji Saratoga on Craigslist that looks to be in decent shape and my size frame that I ride. From the research i've done, they are a touring bike. Any good or bad things to look out for on these? Worth pursuing?
09box is offline  
Old 09-04-14, 08:48 AM
  #2  
icepick_trotsky 
Aspiring curmudgeon
 
icepick_trotsky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Saint Louis
Posts: 2,675

Bikes: Guerciotti, Serotta, Gaulzetti

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 107 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 4 Posts
Pics would help. What kind of tubing does it have?
icepick_trotsky is offline  
Old 09-04-14, 08:50 AM
  #3  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
VINTAGE FUJI SARATOGA BICYCLE
09box is offline  
Old 09-04-14, 08:52 AM
  #4  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 18,737

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 161 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5204 Post(s)
Liked 1,810 Times in 1,182 Posts
Originally Posted by 09box View Post
If the bike fits you (and it looks to be around a 21-22 inch frame), then don't hesitate. This is a fine bike at a very good price.
bikemig is offline  
Old 09-04-14, 11:31 AM
  #5  
Lascauxcaveman 
Senior Member
 
Lascauxcaveman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Port Angeles, WA
Posts: 7,899

Bikes: A green one, "Ragleigh," or something.

Mentioned: 182 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1577 Post(s)
Liked 467 Times in 274 Posts
Yep, grab it!
__________________
● 1971 Grandis SL ● 1972 Lambert Grand Prix frankenbike ● 1972 Raleigh Super Course fixie ● 1973 Nishiki Semi-Pro ● 1980 Apollo "Legnano" ● 1984 Peugeot Vagabond ● 1985 Shogun Prairie Breaker ● 1986 Merckx Super Corsa ● 1987 Schwinn Tempo ● 1988 Schwinn Voyageur ● 1989 Trek 400 ● 1989 Bottechia Team ADR replica ● 1990 Cannondale ST600 ● 1993 Technium RT600 ● 1996 Kona Lava Dome ●
Lascauxcaveman is offline  
Old 09-04-14, 11:55 AM
  #6  
The Golden Boy 
Extraordinary Magnitude
 
The Golden Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Waukesha WI
Posts: 12,731

Bikes: 1978 Trek TX700; 1978/79 Trek 736; 1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport; 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP; 1985 Trek 620; 1985 Trek 720; 1986 Trek 400 Elance; 1987 Schwinn High Sierra; 1990 Miyata 1000LT

Mentioned: 76 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2235 Post(s)
Liked 741 Times in 451 Posts
Grab it.

Now.


Deore LX components, indexed bar end shifting, nice gearing range, cantilever brakes- and if it's already at 700C wheels- Bonus!

I think the dual slotted brake levers are cool; I'm also a fan of the Myrricle mirror (maybe not on the right side, though- unless you're planning a trip to Europe). Everyone is going to say to get rid of the turkey levers- I would say to see how they work with the canti brakes. I have a set of turkey levers pulling some roller cams- perfect, modulatable stopping power- from pretty much anywhere on top of the bars.
__________________
*Recipient of the 2006 Time Magazine "Person Of The Year" Award*

Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!

"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.

Last edited by The Golden Boy; 09-04-14 at 12:02 PM.
The Golden Boy is offline  
Old 09-04-14, 01:32 PM
  #7  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Is it hard to remove the turkey levers? I would probably take them off and maybe swap on some newer handle bars and keep the bar ends.
09box is offline  
Old 09-04-14, 01:57 PM
  #8  
cycle_maven
Collector of Useless Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,407
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Buy it now. That bike is underpriced by half.

A good option if you want to keep the top-of-the-bars braking is to get some aero levers and a pair of cross levers for the bar tops.
cycle_maven is offline  
Old 09-07-14, 07:38 PM
  #9  
gearheadgeek
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Central CT
Posts: 100
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Great bikes. I have an '89 and have put a lot of miles on it. That's a fair price.

- John
gearheadgeek is offline  
Old 09-08-14, 10:03 AM
  #10  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I know the Saratoga is a little heavier than a road bike. Is the added weight going to be noticeable since its a touring bike?

Also, I contacted the owner and he is the original owner. He stopped cycling and the bike has sat in the attic for the last few years and will probably need new tubes. He also sent me numerous pictures of the bike and also one of the original invoice for the bike.
09box is offline  
Old 09-08-14, 10:15 AM
  #11  
cycle_maven
Collector of Useless Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,407
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
You haven't bought it yet? Whatcha waiting for?

Yes, it will be heavier than a typical road bike of the same period, and much heavier than a modern road bike. But I wouldn't want to hang 40 extra pounds off a modern road bike and expect it to handle any way other than scary. Nor would I want to go over a bump with said loaded road bike. If you want a road bike, then there's nothing wrong with getting a road bike in addition. But touring bikes make great commuters as well.

As far as speed goes, George Hincapie on a beach cruiser will smoke me on a $10,000 Tarmac at any distance. It's really mostly the engine.
cycle_maven is offline  
Old 09-08-14, 11:48 AM
  #12  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I need to get my other bike sold first. Also, I am looking at this Bridgestone 300:
Bridgestone 300

Any insight?
09box is offline  
Old 09-12-14, 11:22 AM
  #13  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I talked to Mrs. 09box and got her blessing so i'm going to try and go look at the Saratoga tomorrow.
09box is offline  
Old 09-12-14, 11:58 AM
  #14  
Gravity Aided
Senior Member
 
Gravity Aided's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Normal, Illinois
Posts: 2,714

Bikes: Trek 600 ,1980Raleigh Competition G.S., 1986 Schwinn Passage, Facet Biotour 2000, Falcon San Remo 531,Schwinn Sierra, Sun Seeker tricycle recumbent,1985 Bianchi Squadra

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Good luck tomorrow. The FUJI tourers are great bikes, sometimes they slip in under the radar. I have a Touring Series IV I got because no one else was interested.
Gravity Aided is offline  
Old 09-13-14, 08:22 PM
  #15  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I bought it today. It was in better condition than the pictures make it out to be.
09box is offline  
Old 09-13-14, 08:31 PM
  #16  
intransit1217
Senior Member
 
intransit1217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Kenosha , Wi
Posts: 1,226

Bikes: 2013 specializes secure sport, Salsa vaya, Masi giramondo

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 43 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Good. Even if you don't ride it, it's great wall art.
intransit1217 is offline  
Old 09-14-14, 11:44 AM
  #17  
Gravity Aided
Senior Member
 
Gravity Aided's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Normal, Illinois
Posts: 2,714

Bikes: Trek 600 ,1980Raleigh Competition G.S., 1986 Schwinn Passage, Facet Biotour 2000, Falcon San Remo 531,Schwinn Sierra, Sun Seeker tricycle recumbent,1985 Bianchi Squadra

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked 9 Times in 9 Posts
But ride it. Ride it a lot.
Gravity Aided is offline  
Old 09-22-14, 01:01 PM
  #18  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Here it is. I took off the turkey levers already. It got two new tubes, fresh bar tape, clipless pedals, my bags are getting swapped over and it will be ready to ride.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
saratoga.jpg (55.2 KB, 187 views)
09box is offline  
Old 09-22-14, 06:31 PM
  #19  
The Golden Boy 
Extraordinary Magnitude
 
The Golden Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Waukesha WI
Posts: 12,731

Bikes: 1978 Trek TX700; 1978/79 Trek 736; 1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport; 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP; 1985 Trek 620; 1985 Trek 720; 1986 Trek 400 Elance; 1987 Schwinn High Sierra; 1990 Miyata 1000LT

Mentioned: 76 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2235 Post(s)
Liked 741 Times in 451 Posts
Sweet!

Although I understand not wanting the bike to look like a "cheap" "beginner's" bike, I'm bummed that you took off the turkey levers- if they worked well with those brakes- that gives you a nice position for braking on the flats.

I'm looking forward to seeing more pix- and don't forget to post it in the "show your vintage touring bike" thread!

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-bikes-60.html
__________________
*Recipient of the 2006 Time Magazine "Person Of The Year" Award*

Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!

"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
The Golden Boy is offline  
Old 09-23-14, 08:55 AM
  #20  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I still have the turkey levers. I'm used to riding on the hoods more than anything. I can always put the levers back on and try them if I want to. I have them in a bag of parts in the garage.
09box is offline  
Old 09-23-14, 06:40 PM
  #21  
The Golden Boy 
Extraordinary Magnitude
 
The Golden Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Waukesha WI
Posts: 12,731

Bikes: 1978 Trek TX700; 1978/79 Trek 736; 1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport; 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP; 1985 Trek 620; 1985 Trek 720; 1986 Trek 400 Elance; 1987 Schwinn High Sierra; 1990 Miyata 1000LT

Mentioned: 76 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2235 Post(s)
Liked 741 Times in 451 Posts
Originally Posted by 09box View Post
I still have the turkey levers. I'm used to riding on the hoods more than anything. I can always put the levers back on and try them if I want to. I have them in a bag of parts in the garage.
Cool- the fashionable thing is to toss them, but depending on how well they work with your brakes, they can be handy. If they don't give you the braking power you need, you shouldn't use them. For me on the roller cam brakes, they stop about as well as my Superbe sidepulls.

After about mile 8, I'm looking for more places to put my hands and start switching all the time. If I'm trying to pay attention to the scenery, I'm usually up there on the flats.

I went and actually looked for some nice levers with the turkey levers for my High Sierra.





Your Saratoga looks like a fun, plush ride. I hope you're enjoying it!
__________________
*Recipient of the 2006 Time Magazine "Person Of The Year" Award*

Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!

"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
The Golden Boy is offline  
Old 09-24-14, 08:09 AM
  #22  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
The bike should be ready to roll on Saturday morning. I am in the midst of getting everything straightened out. I put my pedals on and ripped off the old bar tape last night. I am going to put my bags, lighting and cyclocomputer on next. New hoods might be in order as well. Upon further inspection, the bar end shifters are a little dirty and a little rusty. Any recommendations on how to clean up the gunk and rust on the shifters?
09box is offline  
Old 09-24-14, 08:49 AM
  #23  
cb400bill
Follow Your Arrow
 
cb400bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 19,509

Bikes: Fuji SL 2.1 Carbon Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR gravel Viscount Aerospace Pro

Mentioned: 45 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2440 Post(s)
Liked 3,051 Times in 1,859 Posts
I've been successful in rust removal using Bar Keepers Friend. It contains Oxalic acid.

There are a million threads on the forum about rust removal.
__________________
If your presence doesn't make an impact, your absence won't make a difference









cb400bill is offline  
Old 09-24-14, 11:35 AM
  #24  
John E
feros ferio
 
John E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Posts: 20,473

Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 992 Post(s)
Liked 415 Times in 301 Posts
That looks like a delightful bike for general purpose riding, touring, transportation, etc. It is precisely what I would want if I could have only one bicycle. I am glad you snagged it, and I support your suicide brake extension removal, having done the same on my Nishiki Competition shortly after I bought it.
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
John E is offline  
Old 09-24-14, 11:51 AM
  #25  
09box
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 969
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 113 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanks. I wanted something along the lines of a Swiss Army knife of a bike. A do-it-all. I wanted a cross bike but they were out of my price range. This popped up and it was well within my budget and left some $$$ to tinker with it and still come out on top so I pulled the trigger.
09box is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.