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Old 09-23-14, 02:20 PM
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A sidecar, any experience here?

I saw this in a 1930 Armstrong catalogue.

Is this "doable"? Practical?

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Old 09-23-14, 02:38 PM
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I cannot claim any experience, but I'm sure it's a terrible idea for many reasons. Countless reasons. They sure are cute, though.
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A perfect way to trundle your kids to school on crowded streets.
Moms in vans full of kids waiting behind you are delighted at how cute you look.

These would be good if you were trying to transition from being a "spinner" into a "masher".
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Old 09-23-14, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by David Newton View Post
A perfect way to trundle your kids to school on crowded streets.
Moms in vans full of kids waiting behind you are delighted at how cute you look.

These would be good if you were trying to transition from being a "spinner" into a "masher".
Any sane person would NOT ride this on a street with motorcars.
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Originally Posted by David Newton View Post
A perfect way to trundle your kids to school on crowded streets.
Moms in vans full of kids waiting behind you are delighted at how cute you look.
In the 1930's there were fewer minivan mom's driving their kids to school; don'tcha remember - we walked uphill both to & from school back then.
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Old 09-23-14, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by autoteacher View Post
Any sane person would NOT ride this on a street with motorcars.
So that makes me....well....not sane

A BF member in Europe had a hack for sale a year of so ago. Cant't remember who at the moment

Here's a link for Hercules & Watsonian cars

http://herculesmuseum.wordpress.com/...onian-sidecar/


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i've only seen them a couple times in seattle. they seem incredibly dangerous, not just for the rider and passenger(s), buy also for those of us that need to move around the slowly moving bike taking up a lot of room on the trail or lane.

a trailer is far more respectful of your fellow biking and driving neighbors.
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Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
In the 1930's there were fewer minivan mom's driving their kids to school; don'tcha remember - we walked uphill both to & from school back then.
Bare foot.

Chased by T-Rex' named Alice.
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Interesting, I have a Watsonian sidecar on a 1962 BMW R60. First, on a moto, the frame needs to specifically designed for a sidecar, not every bike is capable of handling one. Second, the best definition I have heard of a sidecar is that it handles like a badly designed tricycle. Fun and entertaining but maybe not so practical.
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Old 09-23-14, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
Bare foot.

Chased by T-Rex' named Alice.

In the snow!
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Originally Posted by Velognome View Post
So that makes me....well....not sane

A BF member in Europe had a hack for sale a year of so ago. Cant't remember who at the moment

Here's a link for Hercules & Watsonian cars

1934 Hercules Popular Lady?s 22? Bicycle with Watsonian Sidecar | Hercules Cycle & Motor Co Museum

Wasn't it Daveyates?? IIRC, it was a sidecar made by Gitane.....
Dave always seem to find the coolest C&V stuff in France..
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Originally Posted by eschlwc View Post
i've only seen them a couple times in seattle. they seem incredibly dangerous, not just for the rider and passenger(s), buy also for those of us that need to move around the slowly moving bike taking up a lot of room on the trail or lane.

a trailer is far more respectful of your fellow biking and driving neighbors.
Pssst...that's how people in cars feel about you on your bike.....your dishing up some bad Karma.
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Old 09-24-14, 08:07 AM
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Just don't clip me with it like that damn jackass in the scooter did with his sidecar while trying to pass me in a narrow lane.
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Just don't clip me with it like that damn jackass in the scooter did with his sidecar while trying to pass me in a narrow lane.
I doubt someone lugging one of these would pass anyone.
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Old 09-24-14, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky View Post
I doubt someone lugging one of these would pass anyone.
Think again!

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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky View Post
I doubt someone lugging one of these would pass anyone.
Could rig up a some cranks for the person sitting in the side car. It'd be like a side by side tandem.
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Could rig up a some cranks for the person sitting in the side car. It'd be like a side by side tandem.
You mean like this?

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Probably was quite practical for many during the '30's depression era. Think of the parents hauling little tykes but more importantly, goods. A side car also stabilized the rider in the wet, snow or iced over streets.
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I've never ridden a bicycle with sidecar, but I have tried a motorcycle with one. The thing resists all your steering inputs because it's not allowed to bank naturally in turns. Same problem with tricycle motorcycles. If the guys who make the laws had ever tried driving one, they'd outlaw them.
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Here is my Watsonian sidecar. It is paired with a 1962 BMW R60/2. Still classic and vintage!

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Originally Posted by Velognome View Post
Pssst...that's how people in cars feel about you on your bike.....your dishing up some bad Karma.
psst ... i don't take up more than the bike lane, and my skinny bike allows other bikes and peds to move around me on paths, trails, and (most importantly) on the bridge. users of sidecars cannot say the same.
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There is a modern sidecar attachment made similar to the cloth covered trailers. I'd advise against it. And I too ride a sidecar motorcycle, but a bicycle is completely different as you have to pedal it. The peddling of the bike through your weight side to side and rocks the bike etc. unlike motorcycle sidecars bicycle sidecars are made to compensate for this by having some flex in the attachments.
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BMX hack racing looks terrifying. I think there's a motocross version too.
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Originally Posted by Velognome View Post
Think again!

I'm going on tour with rhm with one of those next summer. We'll trade off pedaling and freeloading.
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Timmy and rhm on a Hack...summer of 2015



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The peddling of the bike through your weight side to side and rocks the bike etc.
No standing while peddling a Hack, just sit and spin....it's and Edwardian thing. I think your not supposed to perspire either.
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