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I need another bike project like I need another hole in the head, but... Bottecchia!

Old 10-22-14, 05:07 AM
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I need another bike project like I need another hole in the head, but... Bottecchia!

This bike is literally blocks from my house, and I am tempted. The condition of the lugs is pretty sad, as it the condition of the whole bike. I offered a max of $75-$100, so that should either scare them off or land me another cool old frame. In my neighborhood, I am the ONLY one who has bikes like this at all. This bike was probably picked up at the same flea market I go to, for $20-$60. We'll see if they even respond first I guess, then go from there.,,,,BD


Calling temporary dibs, just for the record.

VINTAGE BOTTECCHIA 1975 HOUSTON BIKE
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Keep the the Pletscher rear rack, pull the parts for the parts box. Share the goodness and ebay the frame and Brooks saddle.

Go out for dinner.

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The registration sticker is NOT an accurate dating tool here in Houston. I have seen bikes as late as 1985 or so, with 1975 stickers. I think they made a million stickers, then realized nobody was going to register that many bikes that year. They apparently used the 1975 stickers until they ran out.,,,,BD
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They look like Campy shifters at least, I do seem to notice a Valentino like "box" on the front derailleur though, hmmm. They also didn't know enough to post drive side pics, or how to install the front wheel. Hopefully they didn't look at a mid eighties B on ebay and base their price off of that.,,,,BD
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Keep the the Pletscher rear rack, pull the parts for the parts box. Share the goodness and ebay the frame and Brooks saddle.

Go out for dinner.

LOL.
Hey, Steve!

I read that Bottechia was murdered by the Fascists in Italy, pre-WWII.
That alone, and crank_addict's bike, make me want to get one.
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No more than $50 if you must. Do you have some Oxalic acid?
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I am not sure selling the saddle and frame on ebay would bring enough for dinner, so I'd probably just keep it.,,,,BD


Reconsidering, I'd go see it in person, and offer $60 probably. It's pretty sad.
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I am not sure selling the saddle and frame on ebay would bring enough for dinner, so I'd probably just keep it.,,,,BD


Reconsidering, I'd go see it in person, and offer $60 probably. It's pretty sad.
I think you're being tagged with a mission.... someone has to do it!
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If Campy parts, it is a Professional, which was top of the line. If not Campy parts, then it is a Giro d'Italia which has the same frame but equipped with lower end at the time. Might be some script on the TT near the HT. Picked one up a couple of months ago: https://www.flickr.com/photos/112094...7646522476356/ It is a Giro.

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If Campy parts, it is a Professional, which was top of the line. If not Campy parts, then it is a Giro d'Italia which has the same frame but equipped with lower end at the time.
I'm thinking it's a "Special;" with Campy Valentino derailleurs. A bike-boom era, mid level bike, about on par with the Atala "Grand Prix."
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Considering the Houston weather... I fear it is much worse off in person. Can you say frozen spoke nipples fast enough?
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I'm thinking it's a "Special;" with Campy Valentino derailleurs. A bike-boom era, mid level bike, about on par with the Atala "Grand Prix."
Yes, looks like a "Special" Decent bike if a bit on the heavy side, mine weighs around 28lbs. At least some "Specials' came with chromo velato paint jobs so there may be chrome under that blue paint.
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Another vote for "Special" as the model. I owned a 1972 Special and loved it dearly. Even though it was the clunky Valentino components mine worked flawlessly the entire time I rode it, if that wasn't too large for me I'd be willing to take it on as a keeper project. should be interesting to see how this one turns out.

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Geez that's a lot of rust
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When the crank is that rusty, I'd pass. Unless you have a fetish for Universal brakes (which are cool), and if the Brooks is useable. Then $50 tops.
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Should be looking at it this evening, if all goes well. I will take a wrench or two and check the stem and post before offering.,,,,BD
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For my own edification, the opinion that it is a special, is based on the apparent FD (Valentino), hubs(not Tipo or Record) and crank (cotter)? The Universals were used on the Giro. Both the Pro and Giro are chromed frames with the same color paint and chrome socks.
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the real question is how do you keep peace with your "significant other" given the ongoing parade of projects velo?
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I leave her alone about her projects, and she overlooks mine.,,,,BD
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That one looks quite rusty. I think you're all there at $60. Occasionally I do see them available in that $150 range. If you have an eclectic parts bin, could make something of it. And that frame.... ooooh.... hopefully could bring back those embelishments- head badge- chrome lugs, etc..

Thanks Robbie -
About the red one I have:
A 56cm frame comes in sub 6 lbs. but overall is a fun and comfortable rider. No problem as a Century rider. Throw the stock wheels out. A vintage tubular wheelset makes all the difference. I'm slowly swapping bits and pieces- going for all steel .

The steel Campagnolo Velox with Bullseye's jockeys works fine and I just acquired a correct matching Campagnolo single DT shift lever. Also (thanks to Sloar) added a cool steel seatpost and will try one of Rudi's custom saddles. Has the original steel bars. I pulled the front derailleur and now running a single 52t ring with corn cob 13-18t cog. The cottered crank has to go but I've been chasing for a Campagnolo 3 pin steel arm cotterless crankset. Without a front der., I do need a chain keeper. Once in awhile, it will drop the chain due to not keeping enough tension while quickly sweeping thru the gears.


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I leave her alone about her projects, and she overlooks mine.,,,,BD
thanks Bikedued.

was picturing them hidden in the crawl space awaiting the chance to work them into the regular racks...
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For a while she would ask "Are you going to sell this one?". I think she just got tired of asking after the first 50 or so.,,,,BD
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So is it Bo Tech ee uh, Bo Tesh ee uh, or Bo Tetch ee uh? I never needed to know until now.,,,,BD
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hope you have lots of fun with this Teddy. please post again as he moveth forwardly.
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I passed on it. It was that bad. I think it sat outside 30 years, and was in a saltwater flood some years ago. RD was twisted, FD locked up solid. Cracked brake lever base, Brooks was long gone. Rust, rust, and more rust. The only thing I could have saved was the stem and bars, and the stem was pretty( in form). Oh well, that's life. He seemed genuinely disappointed, and was a really nice guy(Also a Ford nut). It would have cost 3 times the value of the bike to begin to make it look decent.,,,,BD
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