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909Rat 10-25-14 05:17 PM

1990īs wheelsets
 
who made what?

LesterOfPuppets 10-25-14 05:30 PM

For much of the 90s it was mostly a hub + rim + spokes kinda thing. "wheelsets" grew in popularity, and are probably still growing in number.

Oldschool HEDs are the first that pop into my head. Various other plastic wheels, of course. Spinergy, Aerospoke, Specialized,

On the mountainbike side, on mombat.org, the first mention of a Mavic Wheelset is in 1997, the Crossland and Crossmax wheels, specifically.

bsword 10-25-14 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 17249366)
For much of the 90s it was mostly a hub + rim + spokes kinda thing. "wheelsets" grew in popularity, and are probably still growing in number.

Oldschool HEDs are the first that pop into my head. Various other plastic wheels, of course. Spinergy, Aerospoke, Specialized,

On the mountainbike side, on mombat.org, the first mention of a Mavic Wheelset is in 1997, the Crossland and Crossmax wheels, specifically.

:lol: nuts:lol:

909Rat 10-26-14 06:40 AM

ok thx for the info

909Rat 10-26-14 09:17 AM

got an old early 90īs road bike. Looking to put some new wheels on it. somebody has some catalog scans or so? Mavic, araya, ... should i really learn how to spoke one myself?

embankmentlb 10-26-14 09:22 AM

Yes, the good ole days. Rims of aluminium, hubs with ball bearings and you built them yourself!

scozim 10-26-14 09:23 AM

OP - you're original post is somewhat cryptic. Based on your follow up it appears you are looking for recommendations on what wheels would be best for your bike. What are you riding? What type of riding over what type of terrain? Knowing this information would aid others in providinga list of good options for you.

RobbieTunes 10-26-14 09:49 AM

The 90's were banner years of ball-bearing hubs that spun to eternity. I can't remember a lot of wheelsets from the era that stood out, just the hubs and the unique wheels.

Dura Ace, from 7400 through today, spins like silk and you can't really go very wrong with any of those hubs (and you can still get them in ball bearing).
Campangolo's 90's offerings were almost as smooth, and certainly way up there in quality, especially their proprietary (but heavy) wheelsets.
Even the lower-tier ball-bearing hubsets were very good, and Miche made some very nice ball-bearing hubs to compete with Campagnolo.

At the end of the 90's, the "newer" factory-made sealed bearing hubs were starting to show up, and were not yet equal, in my opinion, to the good ball bearing hubsets offered. I'm not sure they were even the equal of some of the nice sealed bearing hubs from the 80's, like Suzue, Sunshine, and Suntour. They were, however, significantly lighter, in many cases. I've never considered it that much of an issue, but some do, when it comes to weight.

Rims were not much different from the 80's, when Araya and many others competed to get to the 300g/rim zone, limited pretty much by the need for braking surfaces.

On the consumer end, Mavic was doing a lot of the groundbreaking. HED was adding fairings to go aero, and Velocity was coming in hard. Early carbons like Spinergy's Rev-X were still using Shimano 6400 freehubs and ball bearings. Many "tired" wheels from now were new then, and you can really make a difference on a 90's bike with a modern wheelset. If you want to be period-correct, you'll probably get smoother, longer-lasting wheels, but they will be a bit heavier.

For me, the 90's were aluminum bikes with wheelsets like 105/Mavic CXP-whatever's, and not anything to get excited about. Heck, my 1995 Trek OCLV 5500 had 6400 hubs laced to Matrix ISO-II's. This was a wheel little changed from the late 80's, but a bit lighter rim.

bsword 10-26-14 10:05 AM

yeah i want to learn how to build my own wheels its a big expense ,could cost as much as the frame

909Rat 10-26-14 10:13 AM

thx for the info guys. I have a 1990 Jan Janssen vuelta with a 6400 shimano ultegra group. I want to put some new wheels under it so what rims and hubs would you guys recommend?

ThermionicScott 10-26-14 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by bsword (Post 17250571)
yeah i want to learn how to build my own wheels its a big expense ,could cost as much as the frame

Why should the cost of building good, reliable wheels be proportional to whatever steal you got on the frame? (Or is it a really cheap crappy frame? ;))

And in case I didn't protest enough, the cost to get into building wheels isn't as high as you (probably) imagine.

bsword 10-26-14 10:20 AM

yeah your rite they are just cheap 'crappy' frames:):love: as opposed to new ones :) or decent old ones

909Rat 10-26-14 10:20 AM

what was mavic producing back then? open cd, am2, ... what else? which are better? what where other rim manufacturers producing in 1990? Does somebody have some catalog scans?

bsword 10-26-14 10:31 AM

slightly aero cxp30 s[mavics] campag omega v hardox and shamals are deep. a very popular clincher rim in the 90's was ma2 argent,mavics deep section was the cosmic.
'better' not a cut and shut debate. more a discussion with a wheel builder on weight of the rider type of roads average
speed imho.

909Rat 10-26-14 10:33 AM

perfect. thx dude

LesterOfPuppets 10-26-14 10:35 AM

6400 was 1988-1991, I think.

Here's Mavic 1984-5

MAVIC catalog (1984-1985)

For freewheel wheels of that era, I like Italian - Campagnolo Record hubs, some Ambrosio or Nisi rims, maybe.

LesterOfPuppets 10-26-14 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by bsword (Post 17250632)
slightly aero cxp30 s[mavics] campag omega v hardox and shamals are deep. a very popular clincher rim in the 90's was ma2 argent,mavics deep section was the cosmic.
'better' not a cut and shut debate. more a discussion with a wheel builder on weight of the rider type of roads average
speed imho.

I love MA2s. And 192's ( pretty skinny tho).

Wolber rims were also pretty hot around 1990. GTX were on a lot of bikes.

909Rat 10-26-14 10:45 AM

great!

ThermionicScott 10-26-14 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by 909Rat (Post 17250607)
what was mavic producing back then? open cd, am2, ... what else? which are better? what where other rim manufacturers producing in 1990? Does somebody have some catalog scans?

Be careful what you ask for -- people are liable to list off their favorite rims that are impossible to find now. ;)

embankmentlb 10-26-14 11:24 AM

When did Open Pro rims come about? One of my favorite rims.

909Rat 10-26-14 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 17250738)
Be careful what you ask for -- people are liable to list off their favorite rims that are impossible to find now. ;)

haha isnīt that great

RobbieTunes 10-26-14 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 17250654)
Wolber GTX were on a lot of bikes.

Excellent rims.

leicanthrope 10-27-14 12:40 AM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 17250654)
I love MA2s. And 192's ( pretty skinny tho).

Out of curiosity, do you know anything about the history of the 192's? I've got an oddball one that I picked up at a local co-op, and I haven't been able to dig up much of anything on them myself. I've started to wonder if they were made as an OEM rim for some bike manufacturer.

paulkal 10-27-14 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by 909Rat (Post 17250587)
thx for the info guys. I have a 1990 Jan Janssen vuelta with a 6400 shimano ultegra group. I want to put some new wheels under it so what rims and hubs would you guys recommend?

Are you sure it a Vuelta with Ultegra? The Vuelta came normally with Exage.

909Rat 10-27-14 04:43 AM

i know there was an exage 500ex on it but iīve changed it to ultegra


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