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Old 11-26-14, 11:02 AM
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Was it something you hit ? Did it come apart at a joint - a bonded joint ?
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Originally Posted by RaleighSport View Post
Hard to say on the frame failure thing.. it was the equivalent of a stick in the spokes, if the stick were solid tempered steel.

I was going to make a joke about your sister and the ugly joke.. but Im not up to it just yet.
Yeah, that could be problematic, for sure...

On a more serious note, I hope you're up and about soon.
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Originally Posted by jaguiler View Post
Was it something you hit ? Did it come apart at a joint - a bonded joint ?
End of a lock ended up in the front spokes, created a lot of torque at the front end, the ancient bonded socket lugs could not stand up to it, so the bike came to a dead stop at about 20mph with the front end flying off.
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Old 11-26-14, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RaleighSport View Post
End of a lock ended up in the front spokes, created a lot of torque at the front end, the ancient bonded socket lugs could not stand up to it, so the bike came to a dead stop at about 20mph with the front end flying off.

I guess in this case we can't blame the carbon fork. Here's to a quick and speedy recovery - best wishes and better luck with your next ride.
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Old 11-26-14, 12:45 PM
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Here's to a speedy recovery. I hope you had a helmet on?
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Old 11-26-14, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
Here's to a speedy recovery. I hope you had a helmet on?
Nope, and I would be almost completely injury free if I had, just some minor road rash. I'm a total helmet advocate now.
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Old 11-26-14, 12:53 PM
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Nope, and I would be almost completely injury free if I had, just some minor road rash. I'm a total helmet advocate now.
Sometimes we learn the hard way. Glad you did not get a concussion.
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Old 11-26-14, 01:09 PM
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Are the components at least ok, so you can transfer them to a new frame?
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Old 11-26-14, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by himespau View Post
Are the components at least ok, so you can transfer them to a new frame?
I haven't really surveyed the wreckage yet.. seems like something I can do.
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Old 11-26-14, 01:12 PM
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Yikes! What a turn this thread took.
Glad you are OK.

Any story on where the original fork ended up? Perhaps it had been involved in a previous collision in turn contributing to the failure here.
Though it sounds like there was no surviving the circumstances.
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Old 11-26-14, 01:20 PM
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Bummer about the bike. Pretty lucky to come out of it as well as you did considering such a crash. Heal soon!
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Old 11-26-14, 01:23 PM
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The CF fork seems to be untouched by the wreck (not that I trust it)

One brifter was shifted in position, internals seem to be fine on basic inspection.

everything seems to be good back here too....

I'm beginning to suspect I took the brunt of the blow after it fell apart, I wasn't paying much attention to the bike itself.
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Old 11-26-14, 01:27 PM
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Yikes! Sorry about the wreck. Glad nothing but the bike was broken. Bummer nonetheless.

Makes me more curious than ever what happened to require the replacement fork in the first place. That's where you would expect frame failure affter a frontal collision. You say "the ancient bonded socket lugs could not stand up to it" but it looks like the metal tube tore clean through. Did the joint come unbonded, or did the tubes tear just behind the joint?
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Old 11-26-14, 01:35 PM
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Bummer mate

I'm with @gaucho777, it looks like the tubes snapped rather than coming unbonded.
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Old 11-26-14, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
Yikes! Sorry about the wreck. Glad nothing but the bike was broken. Bummer nonetheless.

Makes me more curious than ever what happened to require the replacement fork in the first place. That's where you would expect frame failure affter a frontal collision. You say "the ancient bonded socket lugs could not stand up to it" but it looks like the metal tube tore clean through. Did the joint come unbonded, or did the tubes tear just behind the joint?
Seems to have broken off at the end of the internal lugs inside the tubes, the way it had sheared "teeth" in the tube I was assuming it had snapped at the actual "socket", so the internal lugs took it and torqued the DT/TT also, there appears to be internal rust... it appears only cosmetic, but if I recall right 753 doesn't stand up to rust well at all.
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Wow, glad that you seem ok. Road Rash is the worst, don't be surprised if you are "shaky" on the bike for awhile. Really look at the components, chainrings can be bent derrailuer pulleys can be twisted, etc.

Get better, hope you have a quick recovery.
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What size was your frame again?
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And I thank you all for the well wishes, and relatively speaking... I'm lucky as hell and doing well. On the "bright side" N-1 necessitates N+1 right?
Matt that was a 56 which is on my upper limit.
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The CF fork seems to be untouched by the wreck (not that I trust it)
Are those handcuffs you were using for a lock? Tell me if this is right: The lock/handcuffs were hanging on the bars before they fell down into the spokes. Part of the lock caught in the spokes, and the rest of the lock wedged on the back of the CF fork, which sent you toppling over the bars, broken bike behind you. Looks as if there are some faint impact marks on the back of the fork on either side of the brake bolt. The CF fork may appear okay, but I would not trust it either.

Heal well, and be Thankful you still have your wits and all your teeth!
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
Are those handcuffs you were using for a lock? Tell me if this is right: The lock/handcuffs were hanging on the bars before they fell down into the spokes. Part of the lock caught in the spokes, and the rest of the lock wedged on the back of the CF fork, which sent you toppling over the bars, broken bike behind you. Looks as if there are some faint impact marks on the back of the fork on either side of the brake bolt. The CF fork may appear okay, but I would not trust it either.

Heal well, and be Thankful you still have your wits and all your teeth!
They are masterlock cufflocks, actually made as a bicycle lock believe it or not. Otherwise you're pretty close on your guess, minus of course my operator error of not re-pressing the lock button one side of the lock after readjusting them while in the saddle, so as to avoid just such an incident.
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Originally Posted by RaleighSport View Post
They are masterlock cufflocks, actually made as a bicycle lock believe it or not. Otherwise you're pretty close on your guess, minus of course my operator error of not re-pressing the lock button one side of the lock after readjusting them while in the saddle, so as to avoid just such an incident.
Double Ouch. I could say something snarky like keep those cuffs in the bedroom, but the more interesting item is how the frame failed. It might have actually absorbed some of the energy, enough to toss you a bit less, but the tube failure looks more like a hack saw job… were the ends of the tubes sealed? This does not push this construction technique very well.
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Old 11-26-14, 04:35 PM
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Ouch, sorry man. Sounds like you're taking it ok though. Nothing to do but give yourself some time and then ease back into the saddle again. If it makes you feel any better I do at least three careless/boneheaded things pretty much everyday. It's a wonder I'm still on the planet.
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Reminds me of orangeology's 3V. I realize that 3Vs are welded whereas Technium's are bonded, but the internal lugs seems to lead to a similar failure point--almost like the edge of the internal lug worked as a lever to shear the DT and TT on RaleighSport's frame (and might have happened on Orangeology's 3V if more of an impact).

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after 2 months of waiting.

for reminding everyone, this was 'before' condition of the Masi 3V frame.
a '88 3Volumetrica, Cali-built. Orange and black, but it looked a second coat over original.


swirls on TT and DT near HT, possibly from a front collision.



frame looked sound anyway...
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Some bike just suck, nothing more, nothing less.
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