Steel frame with Canti bosses and clearance?
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Steel frame with Canti bosses and clearance?
So, one thing I would like to consider doing in the future is getting a frame that supports canti brakes.
I'd like to move all my components over to it (1" threaded headset, 130mm rear spacing, fender and rack mounts)
What could should I be looking for?
the rear spacing isn't a huge issue. I can have it modified by my LBS properly.
I would prefer a japanese bike, but whatever I can get.
A Kuwahara would be most excellent.
I also like bright, happy colours.
I'd like to move all my components over to it (1" threaded headset, 130mm rear spacing, fender and rack mounts)
What could should I be looking for?
the rear spacing isn't a huge issue. I can have it modified by my LBS properly.
I would prefer a japanese bike, but whatever I can get.
A Kuwahara would be most excellent.
I also like bright, happy colours.
11-24-14, 09:52 AM
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A cyclocross or touring bike should work. Older cross bikes are not very common, but there seem to be a lot of old Japanese touring bikes around -- such as the Miyata 600/1000 and comparable models made by Panasonic, Lotus, Univega, Shogun, Fuji and others.
If you aren't wedded to the idea of a C/V bike, there are some great touring and cross frames made by Soma, Surly, Gunnar, Ritchey and others.
If you aren't wedded to the idea of a C/V bike, there are some great touring and cross frames made by Soma, Surly, Gunnar, Ritchey and others.
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Look for late '80s early '90s touring bikes. A hybrid frame is also a good option and even a Bianchi Volpe.
Fuji Saratoga or America. Univega Via Carisma or Via Montega Hybrids. Bianchi Boardwalk, Advantage 9except the '89 it has a Hi Ten fork) for hybrids or the Volpe, Tangent or Equinox for a cross frame.
Unless you have a more specific need or desire a certain brand there are hundreds of frame to chose from. Are you building a commuter? A touring or hybrid might be more comfortable. A gravel grinder, maybe a higher end hybrid (like the Univegas I listed) or a Cyclocross frame will be a better starting point.
Fuji Saratoga or America. Univega Via Carisma or Via Montega Hybrids. Bianchi Boardwalk, Advantage 9except the '89 it has a Hi Ten fork) for hybrids or the Volpe, Tangent or Equinox for a cross frame.
Unless you have a more specific need or desire a certain brand there are hundreds of frame to chose from. Are you building a commuter? A touring or hybrid might be more comfortable. A gravel grinder, maybe a higher end hybrid (like the Univegas I listed) or a Cyclocross frame will be a better starting point.
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A cyclocross or touring bike should work. Older cross bikes are not very common, but there seem to be a lot of old Japanese touring bikes around -- such as the Miyata 600/1000 and comparable models made by Panasonic, Lotus, Univega, Shogun, Fuji and others.
If you aren't wedded to the idea of a C/V bike, there are some great touring and cross frames made by Soma, Surly, Gunnar, Ritchey and others.
If you aren't wedded to the idea of a C/V bike, there are some great touring and cross frames made by Soma, Surly, Gunnar, Ritchey and others.
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Schwinn Voyageur. Made by Panasonic, easily one of the top tourers of the '80s. There are lots of fans of this bike here.
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One complication with a lot of the 80s models tourers is that they were made for 27" wheels. On some, you can refit with 700c (and thus have far more quality tire options), depending on the canti brakes themselves and the canti mounts, but not always. By the 90s, most (but not all) were fitted with 700c wheels (such as my '94 Bridgestone RB-T).
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Miyata 615 or it's more expensive sibling, the 1000. Quad butted tubing and room for 700x35s.
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One complication with a lot of the 80s models tourers is that they were made for 27" wheels. On some, you can refit with 700c (and thus have far more quality tire options), depending on the canti brakes themselves and the canti mounts, but not always. By the 90s, most (but not all) were fitted with 700c wheels (such as my '94 Bridgestone RB-T).
OH good point I totally forgot that.
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11-24-14, 11:49 AM
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But you really only need one good tire choice, don't you? I wouldn't count 27s out for lack of variety in tires.
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One complication with a lot of the 80s models tourers is that they were made for 27" wheels. On some, you can refit with 700c (and thus have far more quality tire options), depending on the canti brakes themselves and the canti mounts, but not always. By the 90s, most (but not all) were fitted with 700c wheels (such as my '94 Bridgestone RB-T).
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One complication with a lot of the 80s models tourers is that they were made for 27" wheels. On some, you can refit with 700c (and thus have far more quality tire options), depending on the canti brakes themselves and the canti mounts, but not always. By the 90s, most (but not all) were fitted with 700c wheels (such as my '94 Bridgestone RB-T).
I would like to stay C&V. I love my new 1" 3TTT stem
11-24-14, 02:05 PM
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I have a miyata 1000 and a miyata triple cross hybrid and the hybrid is easier to modernize since it's 135mm in the rear and the canti posts are farther apart than on my 1000, which is an 88 I think, so it has to run the original shimano canti brakes. I'm running V brakes on my hybrid right now. One headeset is JIS and the other is ISO I think, which is kinda odd.
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I was actually just admiring that in the Fender thread.
FWIW- I'm running 27s on most everything I have.
FWIW- I'm running 27s on most everything I have.
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@chapel I have a 99 Bianchi Volpe that I had 38s on. I'm downsizing a bit and it will be heading to a new home. Let me know if you're interested
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Dia Compe 981 canti's, which came on some 80's Schwinn Voyageurs, will adjust for both 27" and 700c wheels. Tons of room for big tires, even with fenders, and every braze on imaginable. Three H2O bosses, front and rear racks, and fenders. I have a Voyageur SP set up as a dirt road bike with Conti Cyclocross tires, and it's a blast.
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I don't know all of the details on the geometry but I think that a Trek 750 would also do the trick. Especially some of the years that had lugged frames.
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The 80s Trek 520/620/720 line up are also good candidates.
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As nice as vintage bikes are you might want to look at a used surly cross check.
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I was thinking that Velo Orange Campeur might be a good match too.
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Maybe not the sexiest of options, certainly not the most inexpensive, and somewhat limited by pad type, but BF's own Bob Dopolina makes an offset brake pad holder that could work to make up the 4mm of BSD difference between a 27" and 700c rim.
Product link- BDop OFFSET HOLDERS
Product link- BDop OFFSET HOLDERS
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I wish I could just weld on canti bosses... and get a canti-fork
at that point I'd probably do a fully custom paint job...
at that point I'd probably do a fully custom paint job...
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