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Old 12-12-14, 12:11 AM
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Atala Mystery

Hi folks - I've perused the hundreds of images, questions, forums etc. on Atala bikes and thought perhaps I would throw my mystery into the fray. I have an Atala that I acquired from a local community bike repair shop that I volunteer at. The bike was hanging off a water pipe in the back with all the other junkers, and I liked it. It cleaned up rather well. It is the original paint near as I can tell - and the pics will say it best. The serial number on the right side post starts with a 71, from which I have learned means it *could* be a 1971, however, nothing....from components to color match what I see available in the 1971 Atala Catalogs. It has the Campy sticker, from which I understand most of them had - but the only thing campy on it is the front wheel hub. The wheel set are Presta valve Rigadas. It is stamped 21 on the bottom bracket, which I understand means it is a 21 inch frame, although it seems bigger than that - it fits me perfect and I'm 5'9". The components are Shimano 600 and appear to be rather vintage....photos attached. The head badge I included with a little Xmas spirit. Any help in identifying what model this thing is, or anything else would be great. It rides wonderful. I live in Vermont but am in NYC alot where my wife's family is and I rode it all over Manhattan. It weighs 22.8 pounds as you see it....so it's quite light for an old duffer. Many thanks!
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Old 12-12-14, 04:10 AM
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Looks like a "Gran Prix" to me.

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Old 12-12-14, 04:19 AM
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Nice bike, love the picture!

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Old 12-12-14, 07:03 AM
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Yup, it's a Gran Prix, with the derailleurs and shifters replaced. It came with Campagnolo Valentino stuff, which was worse than Simplex Prestige. Simply awful stuff. It explains how you got the Campagnolo sticker, though.

What rear hub is on it? The originals were Campagnolo Nuovo Tipo, which were pretty nice. By the way, nuovo tipo means "new type," so I chuckle when people call them Tipo.
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Old 12-12-14, 07:32 AM
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Edsel was Henry Ford's son; Valentino was Tullio Campagnolo's son. Why did these dads evidently hate their kids enough to name their failed products after them?
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Originally Posted by John E View Post
Edsel was Henry Ford's son; Valentino was Tullio Campagnolo's son. Why did these dads evidently hate their kids enough to name their failed products after them?
Tullio really missed an opportunity…to name his son Velox.

The kid would've gotten many more girls, I'm sure.
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I agree, it's most likely a Gran Prix. But... Check your scale, 22.8 lbs? Not likely. I had one of these and it weighed considerably more.
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^ Yeah. High ten frame wearing that boat anchor of a crank? That scale is not very accurate.

Nice looking bike though; and those stylish 600 derailleurs are a lot better than Valentinos, that's for sure.
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I picked up a 70's Gran Prix and am in the process of refurbing it. I slammed it in another thread because of it's very sloppy brazing, but I have to admit that the frame is lighter than it should be. Hopefully it will ride nice after all the work it needs.
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Ah! Thanks guys/gals. THERE is that list with the coffee brown color listed.....I thought I saw that once but couldn't find it again. After awhile you start seeing the same stuff so you give up. Gran Prix it is....thank you. The bike looks really nice - rides nice - the only really sloppy flaw I can see with it is the underside of the bottom bracket - the welding is beyond pathetic looking; I'll take a pic of it in a few to post so if others ever need info they can compare. In terms of weight, I don't know - it's what my scale says - it weighs my others *fairly* accurately - including my clunky old Schwinn Varsity at 39 pounds. I'm sure it's off, but I must say, it really is light! I throw it on my shoulder and hike it up five flights in Harlem without a care - as opposed to the Schwinn leaving me in pain! In any event, I appreciate all the answers insight as to why it has the Shimano 600 components. The bar end shifters is something I'm definitely not a fan of that is for certain. I have a Mercier 300 that has them too and I find them baffling. Thanks guys!
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Oh....and I'll check the back hub....I know it's not Campy like the front one.
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The not so pretty underside. Also - the rear hub - if the quick release is any indication, is MM Atom. BB looks like melted chocolate.
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Boy, if that is a bb weld seam, it is by far the worst I have ever seen on a bike. Otherwise, really nice looking bike !
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Yeah it's pretty shoddy that is for sure! I looked closely to see if this was some sort of repair - but it really doesn't appear to be the case. It looks like this is just a classic case of made on a Friday....after lunch, when the quality assurance guy was gone doing #2 . Luckily no one can see it when it's on two wheels. It's strange because everything else appears to be so well put together - not sure why that weld is so crappy. I guess I'll never know it's story..
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Originally Posted by commodus192 View Post
The not so pretty underside. Also - the rear hub - if the quick release is any indication, is MM Atom. BB looks like melted chocolate.
The Gran Prix I sold to sloar (IIRC) looked pretty much the same.
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