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Eddy Merckx purchase....Now with pictures

Old 12-29-14, 10:26 PM
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Eddy Merckx purchase....Now with pictures

The following are pics of the recent Eddy Merckx purchase. Drivetrain is a hodge-podge of parts from Shimano and Campy: Cranks is Campagnolo, FD is Shimano 105, RD is Shimano 600 Tricolor, as are the 7speed indexed DT shifters. Hubs are Campy, laced to Mavic MA40 clinchers showing some brake wear. Tires are toast. Headset is a Galli tapered bearing unit. Front brake is MIA, levers and rear brake are also Galli. 3ttt stem and bars, Campy Aero seatpost, Avocet Touring III saddle. Frame has significant rust. Is it salvagable? I found no dents, dings, bends or other damage. Just rust from sitting (outside?).
Serial would read: C 5 922
Please not the C could easily be a G.
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wow! if its mine I can't wait to apply a rust converter to prevent further rusts.
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Ive brought back worse, if those top tube cable guides are to far gone just pull them off and use cable clamps and take care of the rust on the top tube. The rest looks pretty decent.
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whats the script on the stays by the seat post lug?
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The rust isn't from sitting outside, it's from sweat salts attracting moisture that acts over a very long time. Even dust can do the same thing, though much more slowly unless the dust is perhaps from ocean air.

I would sand the affected area smooth, looking for any super-deep damage to the metal. Then I would clean it well, dry it thoroughly and prime it in preparation for paint. Getting a match to the metallic finish is going to be tough, but will look much better than the rust there now and will protect the structure.

I would first mask the good paint, so as to avoid spreading the area that is damaged.
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Originally Posted by sloar View Post
Ive brought back worse, if those top tube cable guides are to far gone just pull them off and use cable clamps and take care of the rust on the top tube. The rest looks pretty decent.
"Looks pretty decent" from the pictures possibly. I've been over it thoroughly, and I think I'm probably going to tear the bike down, and have the frame bead blasted clean. There are just too many bubbly spots under the paint all over this thing. That may be the only way to really get a feel for what's really under all the paint.
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The frameset is what interests me here.

From my own meager skills, it looks like a very early 80's run of the Professional model.

Signature on seat caps, fork crown, cable/guide routing over the bottom bracket shell, top tube quides and even the color point me in that direction.

Before you start sanding any paint, let's figure out what you have here.

Also, do you have a full drive side shot of the bike?

What size is the frameset?

FYI I emailed a friend that knows more about these to "id" it.

Hopefully he stops by.

In the meantime, check out this link and compare the two framesets.

Eddy Merckx Professional 1980 1st Ed. | loose bearings
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"Looks pretty decent" from the pictures possibly. I've been over it thoroughly, and I think I'm probably going to tear the bike down, and have the frame bead blasted clean. There are just too many bubbly spots under the paint all over this thing. That may be the only way to really get a feel for what's really under all the paint.
I don't see another spot, other than the top tube, that would force me repaint the entire frameset.

I would send a pic or three to Chris Kvale to see what he could do with just the top tube should the need arise.

I've seen him color match incredibly well.

Nor would I bead blast it until you figure out exactly what you have and discover all of your options.

I would take everything off the frameset and clean it thoroughly for now.
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Certainly an early 80's (my guess is 80-81) professional model.
Aside from the top tube, the rest of the frame looks OK, and as they say, the paint is only original once, but...are you certain the paint is original?
I've not seen that decal colorway before, am wondering if it's already been done over once. Would be worth looking at a few old catalog scans to see if they started using the EM logo decal that early in the production runs.
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Clean it up, touch up the top tube rust spot, and enjoy it.
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A nice starting point but it will cost about $1K to make it a thousand-dollar bike. I'd replace all the Shimano with proper Campagnolo. I'd buff up the existing Campagnolo. Sorry folks, but unless Eddie himself rode it, I'd strip the whole frame and repaint it with proper automotive materials (or sent it to a pro). We talk about original paint, but that ship has already sailed on this one, and, in any event, it wasn't uncommon for bikes that were actually raced to get repainted over and over to match team liveries. This is a bike worth restoring.

Interesting how they drilled a tiny hole to route the speedo wire up into the steerer tube.

Appears to have C-record hubs and seat post.

Are the post and stem stuck?
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Interesting. Well loved and well-used bike, as shown by the component changes over the years - maybe the only original bits being the Galli ones. I'm going with the 80-81 date, too.

I'd try to just fix the TT paint as well, unless you determine it's already been repainted.
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Very cool frame. As a Merckx fan, I would love to have one of these early frames. Beautiful color, too. As suggested by others, get a professional opinion on the rust.
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Originally Posted by rccardr View Post
I've not seen that decal colorway before, am wondering if it's already been done over once. Would be worth looking at a few old catalog scans to see if they started using the EM logo decal that early in the production runs.
I've seen three now with that exact decal pattern/font.

Check the link I posted above.
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Colors over the web are very problematic. A friend once had an early Merckx from Eddy's own factory and his was a similar color. The down tube graphics were different though, his had a thinner silver outline, white fill. Similar stampings to the fork crown and seat stay caps. Be interesting to see the underside of the bottom bracket shell.
I suggest taking the bike fully apart, and assessing the paint throughout. The bottom bracket shell is going to have some issues I can see already, nothing as major as the top tube.
The cable guides may still be intact. That rust has to go. Before you do that have a plan for the next step.
This bike should be full Campagnolo "Nuovo Record" era. Easier said than paid for. Functionally, indexing is difficult to say no to.
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The frame is worthy of a good restoration, but be prepared to pay dearly for it to be done correctly. There are a handful of people that can do it correctly, and hundreds that can muck it up. If done correctly, the frame will be worth about what a good restoration should cost.
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The frame is worthy of a good restoration, but be prepared to pay dearly for it to be done correctly. There are a handful of people that can do it correctly, and hundreds that can muck it up. If done correctly, the frame will be worth about what a good restoration should cost.
This one could be worth it to the right person.

I wouldn't rush this one. @op Do your research before you dig in.

I would love one of these in silver.
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Now is his chance to have one in any color he wants.
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Now is his chance to have one in any color he wants.
I am inclined afar doing some referencing to be conservative and only address the top tube.
Get some Campagnolo brakes and rebuild it possibly with the majority of the components it has.
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I am inclined afar doing some referencing to be conservative and only address the top tube.
Get some Campagnolo brakes and rebuild it possibly with the majority of the components it has.
Here is the requested pic of the bottom bracket. Pretty decent shape actually. Just some surface rust. Nothing deep/major.
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Cross posting this into the Valuation forum also. I don't believe I'm the right owner for this frame, especially as it's too small for me.
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It has the early bottom bracket shell which is good, the rust is what it is, that fixed cup may be a blanky d' blank to remove though.
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It has the early bottom bracket shell which is good, the rust is what it is, that fixed cup may be a blanky d' blank to remove though.
I think it is a 1980.

A buddy has a 1980 and it is almost identical, save the color.
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It has the early bottom bracket shell which is good, the rust is what it is, that fixed cup may be a blanky d' blank to remove though.
I bet I could get it off. They are much easier than stems and seat posts.

From the picture of the BB, looks to be a 55cm. Is that correct @nesteel? Merckx goes c-c for measurements.
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Correct, size is 55cm. I will pull the bottom bracket this coming Sunday.
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