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leicanthrope 01-06-15 01:31 AM

ID of a 70's Raleigh touring bike?
 
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Looks like I've got a new project coming my way, the blue Raleigh in this photograph. (Disclaimer: not my photograph.) I'm very much a neophyte in terms of Raleigh stuff, and I'm not finding any obvious matches for this bike in the 1970's catalogs I'm finding online. Anyone recognize the model / vintage offhand?

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juvela 01-06-15 03:56 AM

looks to be some form of rampar; asian bottom ender. not worth your time or space, let alone investment.

redscampi 01-06-15 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by juvela (Post 17445026)
not worth your time or space, let alone investment.

This is a highly subjective statement. Only you can judge if it's worth your time/space. I see stem shifters, but chrome socks on the fork and forged dropouts and aluminum 3 piece cranks. Depending on what you got it for it could be a decent bike.

oddjob2 01-06-15 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by redscampi (Post 17445094)
I see stem shifters, but chrome socks on the fork and forged dropouts and aluminum 3 piece cranks. Depending on what you got it for it could be a decent bike.

+1. Appear to be chrome rims with QR. Probably a 1980ish Grand Prix with Raleigh branded Suntour components.

Deal4Fuji 01-06-15 06:12 AM

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Please forgive me for jumping into your thread leicanthrope, but I think we have basically the same question and my pics might help. I also have a blue Raleigh project of roughly the same era I'd like info on. I know the model of mine as well as the serial #. It has a Made in Japan sticker with a R mark (see pic). Does that stand for Rampar and does that make it less respected? It's a Super Grand Prix I'm going to fix up for my daughter on a college campus, so I didn't want to put too much into it and have it a target for theft. I'm also new to Raleigh and would like to know the year of this model if possible and thoughts on quality vs British and American Raleighs....Thanks !

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DiegoFrogs 01-06-15 06:36 AM

Your Japanese Raleigh is quite nice. The Japanese were typically very consistent, high quality craftspeople and the components are quite good for their time. It's a very thoughtfully put together bike and it should do quite well for your daughter.

oddjob2 01-06-15 06:50 AM

You must have a tall daughter! The Super Grand Prix is distinguished from the GP by its barcon shifters and alloy wheels.

nlerner 01-06-15 07:39 AM

I believe the SGP also came stock with 700c wheels as opposed to 27" wheels on the GP.

Deal4Fuji 01-06-15 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 17445320)
I believe the SGP also came stock with 700c wheels as opposed to 27" wheels on the GP.

On this one the rims are 27"...maybe on later models they started 700c ? Another observation is that the derailer, brakes & crank are all branded Raleigh rather than SunTour . Any thoughts on this ? leicanthrope are yours branded Raleigh too ?
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nlerner 01-06-15 08:17 AM

There doesn't seem to be much online in the way of catalogs for those Japanese-made Raleighs. From your serial #, I'd guess you have a 1981, which is consistent with when those models were made in Japan. You can see the 1980 Raleigh US catalog on threespeedhub.com. Those Raleigh-branded parts were common by that point.

leicanthrope 01-06-15 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by redscampi (Post 17445094)
This is a highly subjective statement. Only you can judge if it's worth your time/space. I see stem shifters, but chrome socks on the fork and forged dropouts and aluminum 3 piece cranks. Depending on what you got it for it could be a decent bike.


Thankfully, it isn't going to cost me any more than about ten miles gas for the trip to pick it up. I missed out on the Pug, which is the one I was really hoping for.



Originally Posted by Deal4Fuji (Post 17445380)
On this one the rims are 27"...maybe on later models they started 700c ? Another observation is that the derailer, brakes & crank are all branded Raleigh rather than SunTour . Any thoughts on this ? leicanthrope are yours branded Raleigh too ?


At the moment, I really only know what's in the photo. Once I get it in my grubby little paws in the next day or so, I'll post some additional info.

leicanthrope 01-06-15 05:14 PM

Picked it up this afternoon. It looks like a 1981 or 1982 Raleigh Reliant. Made in Taiwan labeling, with no visible / remaining Rampar markings. A lot Raleigh branded Suntour bits (V GT rear / 7 front / stem Power Shifter), and unmarked sidepulls that look a lot like Dia Compe from the era. Weighs a ton and a half as it is right now. It's a bit grimy, but the paint is in really good shape. I'm thinking of making it a parts bin winter project for the spousal unit, and I suspect that I could likely drop a good five pounds off it by replacing some of the myriad steel bits with even middling alloy equivalents. Got it for the tidy sum of free, and it'd be a relatively painless way for her to find out if she even likes road bikes.

cb400bill 01-06-15 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by leicanthrope (Post 17447059)
Picked it up this afternoon...Got it for the tidy sum of free...

Nice snag. Anything free is worth saving up for. :)

Pars 01-06-15 09:45 PM

^ +1

Originally Posted by leicanthrope (Post 17447059)
Got it for the tidy sum of free, and it'd be a relatively painless way for her to find out if she even likes road bikes.

Win-win in my book :)


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