A Gold Beauty - Another First
01-09-15, 09:28 PM
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A Gold Beauty - Another First
Back in December I was alerted to an interesting frameset that had appeared on eBay. I have been very good this past year at avoiding the purchase of new framesets, but this one was so special I couldn't help myself. I took a few pictures of the fork, but I'll not have time to show the rest of the frame until later. Pics below. Enjoy!
Fork teaser - 1 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Fork teaser - 2 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Fork teaser - 3 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Fork teaser - 4 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Fork teaser - 1 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Fork teaser - 2 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Fork teaser - 3 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
Fork teaser - 4 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
01-09-15, 09:32 PM
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well, whatever she be we are certainly in the ewe kaye with this find...
01-09-15, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by juvela
well, whatever she be we are certainly in the ewe kaye with this find...
You are spot on with that. I'll have more and better pics tomorrow.
01-09-15, 09:42 PM
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thank you, shall look forward to the balance of her unveilmenture. 
01-09-15, 10:01 PM
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her corona could only be a perpetration of monsieur haden.
unable as yet to locate model name...
me thimketh we are squarely in the mcml's here.
unable as yet to locate model name...
me thimketh we are squarely in the mcml's here.
01-09-15, 10:08 PM
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That's really unusual and pretty. I'm interested in seeing the rest of the bike and how you decide to build it up.
01-09-15, 11:09 PM
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Fork's bent.
(ducks)
(ducks)
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01-09-15, 11:15 PM
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This is like a C&V strip tease, as opposed to outright C&V bike porn.
01-10-15, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
Fork's bent.
(ducks)
(ducks)
simply no end to the quackery.
01-10-15, 05:51 AM
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Norman...again?
01-10-15, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
Seen that forkcrown before but no idea as to make. Subscribing...
01-10-15, 07:15 AM
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A fan dance has commenced.
I vote for Norman, too. 50s, or earlier?
I vote for Norman, too. 50s, or earlier?
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01-10-15, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by juvela
her corona could only be a perpetration of monsieur haden.
unable as yet to locate model name...
me thimketh we are squarely in the mcml's here.
unable as yet to locate model name...
me thimketh we are squarely in the mcml's here.
01-10-15, 07:20 AM
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I vote Norman for the frame, not the fork crown. I defer to Norris L when obscure bits are concerned, but he's not posted in weeks.
Haden does sound right, tho. We await. . .
Haden does sound right, tho. We await. . .
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* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
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1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
(replacing stolen 1981 TR Everest custom)
1982 Tom Ritchey McKinley (touring pickup truck)
1985 ALAN Record (Glued & Screwed. A gift.)
1959 Hilton Wrigley Connoisseur (my favorite!)
1963 Hetchins Mountain King
1971 Gitane Tour de France (original owner)
* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
* rebuilt as upright cruiser
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement)
1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
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Originally Posted by jiangshi
Looks like a Mclean fork.
01-10-15, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by clubman
Norman...again?
Originally Posted by LeicaLad
A fan dance has commenced.
I vote for Norman, too. 50s, or earlier?
I vote for Norman, too. 50s, or earlier?
Here's a couple hints. It's not southern UK. Think boutique builder. LL, it's earlier than 1950's. Estimated early post-war period. Once the remainder of the pics are posted, you'll see why.
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Ok jack taylor?
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DeRosa?
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Also, the frameset has a fair bit of patina as evidenced by the fork, but is otherwise sound. The boxlining is very well-done and in an uncommon fashion (dare I say unique?) which would make it nearly impossible to re-create. In combination with the fact this is the original finish, this gold bike shall remain in its original dress.
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Originally Posted by clubman
Ok jack taylor?
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Originally Posted by nlerner
DeRosa?
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Originally Posted by juvela
well, whatever she be we are certainly in the ewe kaye with this find...
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I believe that's a Brampton fork crown, which would mean the maker had access to Brampton fittings, which would narrow the field to someone working in the last century or so. Progress!
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I realize it's not exactly the same, but Brampton made a lot of different style lugs etc.
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...n/BramCrnL.jpg
I'll take responsibility for putting this particular blip on the @photogravity radar screen, so I'm not going to annoy you with spurious guesses. I know what it is. But I will offer, as a hypotheses, that the frame was made in 1950.
.I realize it's not exactly the same, but Brampton made a lot of different style lugs etc.
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...n/BramCrnL.jpg
I'll take responsibility for putting this particular blip on the @photogravity radar screen, so I'm not going to annoy you with spurious guesses. I know what it is. But I will offer, as a hypotheses, that the frame was made in 1950.
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