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Old 01-10-15, 03:40 PM
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Earlty Schwinn Traveler history?

I've spotted a "1960's Schwinn Traveler 3-Speed" for sale. Is it a fillet brazed frame? Descendant of the New World/ (old) Continentals? At 6'5" will the frame work as well for me as a Raleigh Sports? Thank you....
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I've spotted a "1960's Schwinn Traveler 3-Speed" for sale. Is it a fillet brazed frame? Descendant of the New World/ (old) Continentals? At 6'5" will the frame work as well for me as a Raleigh Sports? Thank you....
The sixties Schwinn Travelers have electro-forged flash welded frames made of thick gauge strips of AISI 1010 carbon steel. The construction is explained in the article Inside the Varsity by Marc Muller, now Richard Schwinn's partner in Waterford Precision Cycles.

At 6'5" you'll most likely need a 25" frame size for a decent fit. Whether a 25" frame will work well for you in terms of frame stiffness and ride quality will depend to a great extent on your weight. The thick walled carbon steel tubing should be stiff enough even on a large frame unless you're really heavy.

BTW, these bikes are very heavy.
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Old 01-10-15, 04:29 PM
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The sixties Schwinn Travelers have electro-forged flash welded frames made of 18 gauge AISI 1010 strips of steel...
The EF tubing was 16ga throughout except for the down tube which is even thicker 15ga tubing. 18ga (4130 Cro-Mo) tubing was used on the fillet-brazed frames.

They are definitely heavy!
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Ah, yes; thanks. I'll edit my post to correct the error.
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Indeed I know they are heavy. I've a '74 Suburban and a '72 Speedster. Their 24" frames work quite well for me

I would assume something pre-62 would be fillet brazed instead of EF? I did note those were offered in 23". I did look at a 21" New World a while back... good thing i had secondary set of bikes to look at...

I'm going to call tonight for some photos, If I get them, that will settle just about everything. If I don't- time to move on.
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I would assume something pre-62 would be fillet brazed instead of EF?
I have both a '54 and a '56 Traveler. I believe that both of these are electroforged frames.
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Here is the 1954 dealer catalog Traveler page.

Originally Posted by 1954 Schwinn Dealer Catalog
FRAME-Made from best grade Schwinn built tubing, electro-forged construction. Men's sizes. 19" , 21" , and 23" . Ladies size 19" .
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As an aside, the quickest sure-fire way to tell if an older Schwinn frame is fillet brazed or electro-forged is to use a magnet on the "fillet".

The brass filler used for fillet brazing is not ferrous and will not attract a magnet, whereas the electro-forged frames are all steel (ferrous) and will attract a magnet.



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Help. My powder blue Traveler reads "made in Japan on the round "star" headbadge and on the classic Schwinn cross ,seat tube label.
The "K428952" stamped into the left rear dropout has me confused. K= October.
But the"4" has me confused. ( year )1964 travelers had "cruiser bars". Mine has drop style. I couldnt find it in the 1974 catalog.
I did find it in the 1976 Catalog. Exact bicycle.
Everything matches perfectly , seat, reflectors. Perfect. But I can't get 1976 out of date code.
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Help. My powder blue Traveler reads "made in Japan on the round "star" headbadge and on the classic Schwinn cross ,seat tube label.
The "K428952" stamped into the left rear dropout has me confused. K= October.
But the"4" has me confused. ( year )1964 travelers had "cruiser bars". Mine has drop style. I couldnt find it in the 1974 catalog.
I did find it in the 1976 Catalog. Exact bicycle.
Everything matches perfectly , seat, reflectors. Perfect. But I can't get 1976 out of date code.
It's quite possible the bike is a 1976 model year Traveler built up on a frame manufactured in 1974. If there are four small digits stamped into the head badge, they represent the assembly date of the bike. The assembly date is coded, with the first three digits representing the day of the year (001-366) and the fourth digit representing the last digit of the year.

Example:

The Tempo head badge shows this bike was assembled on the 109th day of 1985 (1095)

The Schwinn Approved head badge shows this bike was assembled on the 282nd day of 1979 (2829)




0931 93rd day of 1981
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Old 03-29-17, 09:17 PM
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Help. My powder blue Traveler reads "made in Japan on the round "star" headbadge and on the classic Schwinn cross ,seat tube label.
The "K428952" stamped into the left rear dropout has me confused. K= October.
But the"4" has me confused. ( year )1964 travelers had "cruiser bars". Mine has drop style. I couldnt find it in the 1974 catalog.
I did find it in the 1976 Catalog. Exact bicycle.
Everything matches perfectly , seat, reflectors. Perfect. But I can't get 1976 out of date code.
Please post a pic of the bike as well as the serial number stamp. It sounds like a 1974 Schwinn Approved Traveler (in your case made by Bridgestone in Japan for Schwinn), a model which I believe first appeared in 1974 and was essentially a renamed version of the '72-'73 World Traveler (the very first imported Schwinn). The imported (World/Schwinn Approved) Traveler didn't appear in the Schwinn catalogs until 1975 even though it had been available since 1972. Here is the 1975 catalog page:



There are what appear to be a 1974 and a 1975 Traveler on eBay:

Schwinn Traveler 10-speed bicycle ca. 1974 | eBay
Schwinn 1975 Traveler Vintage Men's Bicycle 27" 10 Speed | eBay

EDIT: Here is a '74 ladies model on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/111987546584

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Please post a pic of the bike as well as the serial number stamp. It sounds like a 1974 Schwinn Approved Traveler (in your case made by Bridgestone in Japan for Schwinn), a model which I believe first appeared in 1974 and was essentially a renamed version of the '72-'73 World Traveler (the very first imported Schwinn). The imported (World/Schwinn Approved) Traveler didn't appear in the Schwinn catalogs until 1975 even though it had been available since 1972. Here is the 1975 catalog page:

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There are what appear to be a 1974 and a 1975 Traveler on eBay:

Schwinn Traveler 10-speed bicycle ca. 1974 | eBay
Schwinn 1975 Traveler Vintage Men's Bicycle 27" 10 Speed | eBay

EDIT: Here is a '74 ladies model on eBay: vintage 70's schwinn traveler Road Bicycle WILL SHIP | eBay
You've got it pegged. It almost has to be the lugged Bridgestone import.
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Certainly nothing bad about a lugged Bridgestone import!
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I haven't mastered the photo upload yet. URL's and all that. There are no numbers on the Traveler badge. My Black 1989 Schwinn Prelude Badge reads"1529".

The building of a 1974 frame in 1975 powder blue "Traveler" format makes perfect sense. I believe the mystery is solved, my Dear Watson.
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Not solved......My "Approved Traveler" is Identical in all ways to the 1975 catalog photo, save one. My bike has white decals.....I'll post photos.
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Not solved......My "Approved Traveler" is Identical in all ways to the 1975 catalog photo, save one. My bike has white decals.....I'll post photos.
Catalog details are not always 100% correct as they are shot several months before the start of the model year. The white decals were used on Opaque Blue models as seen on the 1974 model in this eBay listing: vintage 70's schwinn traveler Road Bicycle WILL SHIP | eBay





Here is a listing for a '75 model also in Opaque Blue with white decals:Schwinn 1975 Traveler Vintage Men's Bicycle 27" 10 Speed | eBay

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