panic: my 15mm socket is missing and no able to tighten the crank bolt, any alt?
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If you have a choice at the hardware store, get a 12-point socket; those are more likely to have a thinner wall than the 6-point sockets and thus to provide the necessary clearance inside the crank.
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They have quite a few tools, I'd call though.
If you haven't been to a Harbor Freight, the one just north of the Lincoln Tunnel access worth the 5 mile drive.
2100 88th Street
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If you haven't been to a Harbor Freight, the one just north of the Lincoln Tunnel access worth the 5 mile drive.
2100 88th Street
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Previous posters are right on - I will add though, that when I was looking to add a 15mm socket to my set a while back, I found that the common sockets sold by auto parts and hardware stores all had outer diameters too wide to fit into my cranks, I had to go to Sears to find a Craftsman brand socket with thin enough walls to fit.
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A bike shop is where to go.
They would have the proper tool for the crank.
They would have the proper tool for the crank.
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Once you get up to around a 14mm size, you can apply quite-decent torque to a hex bolt head using a 1mm-larger 6-pointed socket.
Of course, in this case, a 15mm or 16mm socket is somewhat likely to be too big on the OD to fit into the crank's extractor/dustcap threading, as onespeedbiker originally explained.
Of course, in this case, a 15mm or 16mm socket is somewhat likely to be too big on the OD to fit into the crank's extractor/dustcap threading, as onespeedbiker originally explained.
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Easy enough to find a 15mm size socket, but it's the thin wall spec that's not so common. Sears/Craftsman had the right thin walled socket for me when I lost the previous one I had for my Stronglight cranksets....
The ones sold at places like car parts stores are usually too thick at the walls to fit into threaded crankset bolt wells.....
The ones sold at places like car parts stores are usually too thick at the walls to fit into threaded crankset bolt wells.....
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I had a Sugino crank extractor that had a 14 & 15mm flip-over socket on the other end of the extractor screw that had flats to be turned with an open-end wrench. I also had a shimano extractor that had a 15mm socket on the end of the extractor screw, also with flats for a wrench. Go figure that I can't find either one right now.
Our local Ace hardware has also started stocking Craftsman tools, including loose sockets.
Our local Ace hardware has also started stocking Craftsman tools, including loose sockets.
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I had a Sugino crank extractor that had a 14 & 15mm flip-over socket on the other end of the extractor screw that had flats to be turned with an open-end wrench. I also had a shimano extractor that had a 15mm socket on the end of the extractor screw, also with flats for a wrench. Go figure that I can't find either one right now.
Our local Ace hardware has also started stocking Craftsman tools, including loose sockets.
Our local Ace hardware has also started stocking Craftsman tools, including loose sockets.
My thin walled Craftsman socket that I mentioned had mysteriously been out of sight lately......and everyone in the house declared that they never touched it......
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the more i read things, the closer it goes to Craftman socket @ Sears, it sounds.
had a quick run to REI alas they didn't have the Park Tool.
still at work—it's my 2 job day—not being able to do anything any more.
gonna calm down tonight and trying to drive out to Sears over the wknd, i guess.
those suggested LBS, thanks i know but this is more for stocking a proper home tool than just tightening the bolts.
that 14/15mm flippable Sugino socket wrench sounds really tempting. maybe i need to open a long term search on top of the Campy peanutbutter wrench.
had a quick run to REI alas they didn't have the Park Tool.
still at work—it's my 2 job day—not being able to do anything any more.
gonna calm down tonight and trying to drive out to Sears over the wknd, i guess.
those suggested LBS, thanks i know but this is more for stocking a proper home tool than just tightening the bolts.
that 14/15mm flippable Sugino socket wrench sounds really tempting. maybe i need to open a long term search on top of the Campy peanutbutter wrench.
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I managed to snap a Craftsman 1/2" breaker bar the other day. Can I exchange it for a new one at any store that sells Craftsman, or do I have to go to Sears? I'm trying to avoid the mall.
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15mm regular vs thinwall
First, try to fit a Craftsman 15 mm socket in the crank opening.
No way that 6 point socket will fit.
Next, the proper 15 mm thin wall tool.
Ah, perfect fit!
The two sockets, business ends showing.
(GrandBois, Good question---I'd use the telephone to get your answer.)
No way that 6 point socket will fit.
Next, the proper 15 mm thin wall tool.
Ah, perfect fit!
The two sockets, business ends showing.
(GrandBois, Good question---I'd use the telephone to get your answer.)
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If only there was someplace in greater NYC to find a 15mm thin walled socket. I guess you are just out of luck. Try a bigger city
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Some pawn shops have a bin of misc tools and sell individual pieces for very low prices. We have one that sells cheap tools for $1 per lb (sorry you won't find snap-on in this bin), but if you find a place like this, you should be able to get lots of 14 and 15mm low quality 3/8 drive sockets for next to nothing.
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I've spun many a socket down against the bench grinder, takes about 4-5 minutes tops.
I've prefer using one of those one-piece "lug nut" style "X" wrenches with four different socket sizes, 12-13-14-15mm, made by "CCSC JAPAN".
I had to spin a couple of the tool's sockets against the grinder wheel to have both 14mm and 15mm handy. My socket for 16mm (Stronglight bolts) is just a separate, equivalent-sized 5/8" socket, again turned down against the grinder wheel.
I've got the Park tool and the ones that are integral with a crank puller, but the X-wrench spins those bolts out the fastest as it generously clears the pedals by having the long handle centered with each of any two opposing sockets extending only 4-1/2" from center.
I've prefer using one of those one-piece "lug nut" style "X" wrenches with four different socket sizes, 12-13-14-15mm, made by "CCSC JAPAN".
I had to spin a couple of the tool's sockets against the grinder wheel to have both 14mm and 15mm handy. My socket for 16mm (Stronglight bolts) is just a separate, equivalent-sized 5/8" socket, again turned down against the grinder wheel.
I've got the Park tool and the ones that are integral with a crank puller, but the X-wrench spins those bolts out the fastest as it generously clears the pedals by having the long handle centered with each of any two opposing sockets extending only 4-1/2" from center.
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I never thought of a pawn shop for things like that, good idea. I would think you must have some pawn shops around your location of NYC, and NNJ.
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warranty exchanges in Sears stores.
But weather or not a particular store has it in stock is another matter. Sometimes
it works to the customer's advantage. Had a worn screwdriver with the old style
clear handle. The store I was trying to do a warranty exchange didn't have the
exact model. But they did have an upgraded/professional model with the soft grips.
Employee agreed to the swap when he verified that my model was out of stock.
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Some pawn shops have a bin of misc tools and sell individual pieces for very low prices. We have one that sells cheap tools for $1 per lb (sorry you won't find snap-on in this bin), but if you find a place like this, you should be able to get lots of 14 and 15mm low quality 3/8 drive sockets for next to nothing.
Craftsman, Sears Evolve, and Husky will all all fit in my experience.
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I like my Campy tool for most of my bikes, but they've become prohibitively expensive.
Hard to misplace that tool, though.
My challenge was finding the proper thin wall socket for my Stronglight 93.
16 mm, go figure. Found one that works great.
It is Blackhawk brand.
Hard to misplace that tool, though.
My challenge was finding the proper thin wall socket for my Stronglight 93.
16 mm, go figure. Found one that works great.
It is Blackhawk brand.
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All of my older Craftsman sockets have thinner walls than the newer ones. Possibly done to compensate for poorer materials or to cut down on warranty returns? Same trend with cheapo sockets having thick walls.
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15mm was common on high end bottom brackets until the mid 80s; 14mm was usually found on the low end stuff. And there's also the occasional 16mm (Zeus and Stronglight) just to keep you on your toes. That's why the old Park CCW-2 had all three sizes: