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gt eunuch 01-15-15 06:06 PM

Open pro? Open sport?
 
Looking at purchasing a wheelset for my Bianchi and I found 2 wheelset that seem to fit the bill. Both have the same hubs, same double butted spokes, but the only difference is the rim itself. One set is ~$280 and has Open Pro hoops, the other ringing in at ~$160 with Open Sports.

Any advice? Are the pros worth the extra $100?

Thanks!

Wheels Of Steel 01-15-15 06:09 PM

Intended application for the bicycle these wheels would be for? I'm inclined to say just buy the Open Pro set. Markedly higher quality relative to Open Sport rims.

gt eunuch 01-15-15 06:14 PM

Sorry I didn't specify. The bike is used mainly for a commuter (last year's tally was about 2500 miles ), Fun/fast rides with friends, century here and there and a little bit of off-road use to switch things up every now and then.

Wheels Of Steel 01-15-15 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by gt eunuch (Post 17473434)
Sorry I didn't specify. The bike is used mainly for a commuter (last year's tally was about 2500 miles ), Fun/fast rides with friends, century here and there and a little bit of off-road use to switch things up every now and then.

Once you mentioned century rides and mixed terrain I immediately thought Open Pro.

gt eunuch 01-15-15 06:36 PM

Yea I have heard tons of good about the Open Pros, BUT are they $100 better? ( haven't used either so I am having a hard time making that decision )

1938 Autocycle 01-15-15 06:40 PM

Here is a great deal on Open Pros

Mavic Open Pro Silver Rims Shimano 5800 Hubs Road Bike Wheelset 8 9 10 11 Speed | eBay

I love the set I have.

Barrettscv 01-15-15 06:48 PM

I've had both. I'd put Open Sports on a commuter bike. Especially if the user is more than 175 lbs.

10 Wheels 01-15-15 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Barrettscv (Post 17473535)
I've had both. I'd put Open Sports on a commuter bike. Especially if the user is more than 175 lbs.

Same Here....Open Sport for commuting.

gt eunuch 01-15-15 06:56 PM

For reference; here are the wheelsets I'm looking at. From my googling, their handbuilt wheels get pretty good reviews.

Pair Shimano 5800 Hubs - Mavic Open Sport Rims | Merlin Cycles

Pair Shimano 6800 Hubs - Mavic Open Pro Rims | Merlin Cycles

Bandera 01-15-15 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by gt eunuch (Post 17473562)
For reference; here are the wheelsets I'm looking at.

Nothing wrong w/ 5800 & Open Sport in a proper hand built wheelset but you would be getting 6800 hubs vs. 5800 as well as the Open Pro rims.
I take the long view, having the better hubs for a re-build in future is a good investment in my book if it doesn't bust the budget.
Either way Shimano hubs and Mavic rims are well proven quality gear, not the fad du jour.

-Bandera

Barrettscv 01-15-15 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by gt eunuch (Post 17473562)
For reference; here are the wheelsets I'm looking at. From my googling, their handbuilt wheels get pretty good reviews.

Pair Shimano 5800 Hubs - Mavic Open Sport Rims | Merlin Cycles

Pair Shimano 6800 Hubs - Mavic Open Pro Rims | Merlin Cycles

Do you want all black?

gomango 01-15-15 08:06 PM

I would go in a different direction.

Velomine has a sweet set of H + Son TB14s with 5800 hubs at a great price.

They include the solid DT spokes and skewers for $199.

I've used Mavics on and off over the years, but after the spotty quality of the last two sets of Mavic Open Pros I had I've decided to give them a rest.

When they are good they are very good, but it's a roll of the dice.

I've been impressed with the TB14s.

BentLink 01-15-15 08:08 PM

I've got both rims, and I think OpenPro has tighter tolerances. One of my OpenSport rims is markedly tougher to fit the same tire. It's a small sample size, but I dread flatting on one wheel set. Other than that, the both work fine.

gt eunuch 01-15-15 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by gomango (Post 17473775)
I would go in a different direction.

Velomine has a sweet set of H + Son TB14s with 5800 hubs at a great price.

They include the solid DT spokes and skewers for $199.

I've used Mavics on and off over the years, but after the spotty quality of the last two sets of Mavic Open Pros I had I've decided to give them a rest.

When they are good they are very good, but it's a roll of the dice.

I've been impressed with the TB14s.

So I seriously considered these, but, as with most of the VeloMine builds they use straight gauge spokes. Is this as big of a detriment as I think it is? I have a set of cr18's that need a solid true every 750ish miles, and they have the same spokes (bought from VeloMine a year ago!)

gt eunuch 01-15-15 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Barrettscv (Post 17473629)
Do you want all black?

I don't mind all black; this is going to be a modern rebuild with a black 5800 groupset.

gomango 01-15-15 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by gt eunuch (Post 17473792)
So I seriously considered these, but, as with most of the VeloMine builds they use straight gauge spokes. Is this as big of a detriment as I think it is? I have a set of cr18's that need a solid true every 750ish miles, and they have the same spokes (bought from VeloMine a year ago!)

This all depends how you ride.

Do you ride light or heavy?

We ended up with a set of these on a Ridley cross bike that did many distance rides on gravel last summer with the older 105 hubs.

Around 1,500 miles on a set and they were solid.

TimmyT 01-15-15 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by gomango (Post 17473775)
I've used Mavics on and off over the years, but after the spotty quality of the last two sets of Mavic Open Pros I had I've decided to give them a rest.

When they are good they are very good, but it's a roll of the dice.

I agree. FairWheel Bikes has a good review of rims here: https://fairwheelbikes.com/c/reviews...y-rim-roundup/

dddd 01-16-15 12:57 AM

Open Pro rims are made from a higher-performing alloy called Maxtal. So strength-to-weight ratio is better.

Open Sport rims don't use this alloy, and I don't know if they have two-story "double" eyelets to distribute spoke tension stress between the inner and outer walls of the rim.

I think of both of these rims as old-fashioned though, since riders today are preferring wider rim profiles for what I think are very good reasons.

I've built a few rear wheels for my CX bike using Open Pro rims over the last 20 years, and it's a pretty good rim imo. I did adjust my build to use thicker spokes after bending a couple of rims with very thin spokes.
The events that caused bending were slides where the tire catches traction after sliding out (700c rims can be fragile in this regard).


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