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Old 03-29-18, 05:42 PM
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I think you are fine.
He ordered them, his choice. You built the best you could with the available materials. No problem. Just don't guarantee them and let him know why. May never have an issue, and if they do, not your issue.

The thrills and spills of wrenching for friends. No matter what, they almost always eventually treat you like a bike shop.

I have severely narrowed down who I wrench for, just to eliminate issues.

Today I was invited to ride, and my partner was a guy whose Lynskey I tuned up. It was dead on. After he hauled it around a bit, it was missing shifts, double shifting. After 7 miles of non-stop complaining, we pulled over and I adjusted the cable and it was back to being dead on.

This guy, though, never, ever gives the impression I owe him adjustments.
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I spent an evening earlier this week building up some wheels for a friend to put on his son's Super Course. Black Velocity Fusion rims, black spokes, Campy Record hubs. Pretty nice wheels even if they aren't shiny silver.

But I have a bit of a moral dilemma. He insisted on ordering the spokes and rims himself, and the spokes aren't as long as I'd like. Even though I described to him more than once the process and the need to account for the nipple head height, he always errs on the short side. And it's not the first time. A few months back I built up some wheels for his own bike and he first ordered spokes for 36h wheels when his were 32, so with some chagrin he had to spend more money on spokes. The second set of spokes weren't as long as I'd like either but he insisted on keeping them. What with the weather he's ridden on them only once and nothing broke but that's meaningless. So now I'm looking at a similar mistake for his son's wheels. I tensioned and trued the front the other day, haven't done the rear yet. If I had time I'd just order new spokes and not tell him. But he wants to present them to his son this weekend. Maybe I should pull his son aside and explain it to him. He doesn't need to know.

Oh, the wheels could be just fine, roll along for many miles with no trouble. His son isn't likely to be doing long rides in the wilderness either. But I once had two spoke nipples break on a commute (long story) and don't like the idea of it happening to either of them.
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Old 03-29-18, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
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The thrills and spills of wrenching for friends. No matter what, they almost always eventually treat you like a bike shop.
Thanks for the reply, RT. This guy I built the wheels for is our next door neighbor. We've been good friends for 20-some years, we watched their son (who will receive the wheels) grow from birth to college graduate, he's ridden on some of our C&V bike rides, we own keys to each others' houses, that sort of thing. He's done plenty of stuff for us whenever we've asked, so I don't mind building any wheels he wants. In fact that's why I'm concerned. I'd hate to see either son or dad get hurt from a wheel failure.

I suspect the wheels will be fine, but I do have a plan to convince him to let me build them again in the not too distant future. You see, a recently employed manager-type at my office is also a cyclist, just moved in from Portland (the western one). He had upgraded his bike from Ultegra 9-spd to 11-spd and saved all the pieces. When he finally unpacks enough to find them he has promised to just give me the entire lot! So obviously I will just have to build another bike, more modern than everything I have now. And that will require wheels, which will require spokes. All I have to do is convince my neighbor that I can find hubs and rims that need those lengths. (I already have some candidate rims. If his spokes don't work it won't matter to me and he'll never know.)
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Rebuilt a Sturmey Archer 3-Speed hub today. The hub is on a 1974 Raleigh Superbe that I took in trade for some metal fabrication work last week. Lots of rust on the chrome bits and the frame paint has seen better days. However, it is a solid bike and I thought it might be a fun neighborhood cruiser.

My initial plan was this would be a project for next winter. However, I could not resist the temptation to disassemble the bike and have a look at the condition of the bearing races, etc. One thing led to another and I'm now into a full-on overhaul/rebuild. I suspect I'll be riding this next week. I'll update my progress in the days ahead.

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I returned for an encore repair performance at our local non-profit bike shop, Bike Works. I'm normally a Tuesday night volunteer (adult 26" geared bikes, primarily), and was once a regular Thursday night volunteer (kids bikes, mainly), but the continuing saga of a '90s EL-tubed Marinoni with nearly full 10-speed Chorus had us working a lot longer than expected.

We, meaning @Dfrost and I, were working with Campagnolo-specific cables and housings (bought brand new) to prep a lovely 63cm (59cm TT) Marinoni for sale at BW. The final tuning, specifically the RD, was giving us fits. We tried multiple things, as well as making sure the cables were settled in. We would consistently get gear skipping around cogs 6/7 (if 1 is the smallest cog). A good deal of fidgeting somehow had an even worse effect and the shifting went to crap. It was 9:50 PM on Tuesday, and thus time to call it a night.

Since I am to be out of town for the weekend, I thought a Thursday repair attempt could help. I really wanted to solve the mystery! Hilariously, the Marinoni had solved itself over those last two days! Great news! Don't know how that happened, but it shifts perfectly now, and that's all that matters. Stunning white bar tape was wrapped, final adjustments made, and I took it for a test ride. HTA is 74.5° and STA is about 72.5°, so this bike fits me perfectly. And after owning a 61cm Marinoni (too small) and a 65cm example (too long a TT), this 63cm frame fit just right.

The bike is a lovely thing to ride. It has that Marinoni and Italian tubing magic! I'm so glad it fixed itself. I had brought spare shifters, an RD, and a spare cassette to help rule out problem components, but alas, I had no need to employ them. Victory!
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Picked up a Gazelle 'Sport Super Licht' yesterday.

I'll have to take a closer look in daylight and check the serial number but it is most likely a 1964 model.


A previous owner changed quite a few parts to "modernize" it but the bike seems to be a good basis for some restoration work.
It's a full Reynolds 531 frame that was handmade and custom order at the time with front and rear dynamo lights.
This one is a size 58 it seems.

Some more pics:


Bluemels mudguards


Pinstripes covering the entire frame

I'll be taking it apart to give it a good clean first (and check if the seatpost isn't seized) and then figure out what I am going to do with it.
Most of the components are rusted but the paint on the frame itself is still pretty good for such an old bike. Hardly any rust to be seen.

These bikes originally came with Huret Allvit 4 speed derailleurs or 3-speed Sturmey Archer hubs.
I'm thinking of converting this one to the latter to make it an absolutely flying 3-speed.

We'll see though. I've got a few more projects at the moment anyway.
I'll post a build log if people are interested.
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I just finished up the build of this mid '80s De Rosa Professional. I bought it as a frameset a couple months ago. I was going back and forth with what I should build it up with. I had a 7 speed Campy groupset (friction shifting), an 8 speed DA groupset with STIs and a 9 speed DA groupset with STIs. I went with the 8 speed.
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
I returned for an encore repair performance at our local non-profit bike shop, Bike Works. I'm normally a Tuesday night volunteer (adult 26" geared bikes, primarily), and was once a regular Thursday night volunteer (kids bikes, mainly), but the continuing saga of a '90s EL-tubed Marinoni with nearly full 10-speed Chorus had us working a lot longer than expected.

We, meaning @Dfrost and I, were working with Campagnolo-specific cables and housings (bought brand new) to prep a lovely 63cm (59cm TT) Marinoni for sale at BW. The final tuning, specifically the RD, was giving us fits. We tried multiple things, as well as making sure the cables were settled in. We would consistently get gear skipping around cogs 6/7 (if 1 is the smallest cog). A good deal of fidgeting somehow had an even worse effect and the shifting went to crap. It was 9:50 PM on Tuesday, and thus time to call it a night.

Since I am to be out of town for the weekend, I thought a Thursday repair attempt could help. I really wanted to solve the mystery! Hilariously, the Marinoni had solved itself over those last two days! Great news! Don't know how that happened, but it shifts perfectly now, and that's all that matters. Stunning white bar tape was wrapped, final adjustments made, and I took it for a test ride. HTA is 74.5° and STA is about 72.5°, so this bike fits me perfectly. And after owning a 61cm Marinoni (too small) and a 65cm example (too long a TT), this 63cm frame fit just right.

The bike is a lovely thing to ride. It has that Marinoni and Italian tubing magic! I'm so glad it fixed itself. I had brought spare shifters, an RD, and a spare cassette to help rule out problem components, but alas, I had no need to employ them. Victory!
Cool story, but where are the pics of the bike? Glad to hear you got it working.
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I got the rim tape today, so I'll finish up the wheels tonight. Looks like a maiden voyage on the ST600 tomorrow, and photos too.
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That is awesome, great job!

Originally Posted by rjhammett
I just finished up the build of this mid '80s De Rosa Professional. I bought it as a frameset a couple months ago. I was going back and forth with what I should build it up with. I had a 7 speed Campy groupset (friction shifting), an 8 speed DA groupset with STIs and a 9 speed DA groupset with STIs. I went with the 8 speed.
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Oops - what's wrong in this picture?

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Oops - what's wrong in this picture?

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I'm still not convinced I installed these right...
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Oops - what's wrong in this picture?
Is this a quiz? I know! I know!

The levers are on the wrong sides so the sockets to hold the ends of the cables are underneath. Oh, they should work like that but the knobs on the ends of the cables will protrude.
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I should swap the levers?.
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I should swap the levers?.
Yup

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I'm thinking about finally overhauling that Deore hub so I can finish the gravel bike and move on to the coupled bike. Get it tuned up for the trip North.
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Wow. Those Compass Bon Jon Pass tires were really tight. I don't see any way those are getting patched at the side of the road. These are Sun CR18 rims with Velox tape. Is it normal for these tires to be so tight?
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Yup

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Wow. Those Compass Bon Jon Pass tires were really tight. I don't see any way those are getting patched at the side of the road. These are Sun CR18 rims with Velox tape. Is it normal for these tires to be so tight?
Mine weren't so bad.

I have them on Dyads.
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Originally Posted by rjhammett
I just finished up the build of this mid '80s De Rosa Professional. I bought it as a frameset a couple months ago. I was going back and forth with what I should build it up with. I had a 7 speed Campy groupset (friction shifting), an 8 speed DA groupset with STIs and a 9 speed DA groupset with STIs. I went with the 8 speed.
Sweet De Rosa.

Turned out great, I think.

For gosh sakes, don't ride that poor thing on our city streets until they do the spring patching.

It won't last a week with our potholes, plus we're going to get more snow tonight.
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I am a dry pavement guy. I haven't had any of my bikes out yet. I am getting pretty itchy.

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Sweet De Rosa.

Turned out great, I think.

For gosh sakes, don't ride that poor thing on our city streets until they do the spring patching.

It won't last a week with our potholes, plus we're going to get more snow tonight.
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Originally Posted by rjhammett
I am a dry pavement guy. I haven't had any of my bikes out yet. I am getting pretty itchy.
I've been out quite a bit on the el cheapo ParkPre I picked up.

Really a fun bike.

I am wrestling with a used Surly "Nice" rack on it today.

The Origin8 porteur rack was a short lived experiment.

Screwed up the handling something fierce.

It's all good though.
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Cool story, but where are the pics of the bike? Glad to hear you got it working.
Oh man, you're right. Total fail on that. Uhhhh, I'll have to get back to you on that. Going to be in PDX for the weekend...all while I have a Schwinn Prologue waiting for me to build and ride it!
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Originally Posted by gomango
Mine weren't so bad.

I have them on Dyads.
The rear was even tighter than the front. I'm actually surprised that the tire lever is still in one piece.

It must be the combination of the box section rims and the velox tape. Mounting Michelin PRO3's on H+Son TB14 rim with velox tape was a thumbs-only job. The whole hand was not required.

Even with two tire levers and pretty good hand strength, I'm doubtful that a tube can be patched on the road with these wheels.And of course, these are the extra light versions. Apparently I like stacking the deck against me.
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I had been looking for a Japanese Grail Bike, and came across this 1978 Fuji Professional at a Swap Meet last Weekend. It seems to be all first generation SunTour Superbe. The Bars and Stem are labelsd Nitto. The BB is stamped Sugino which is apparently what came with the first generation Superbe. What confuses me (and it doesn't take much) is the Brakes. They are labeled Dia Compe but look just like the Superbe ones. There was no Wheelset with the purchase so for now I will be mounting a set of Fir Rigida Tubular Rims to Campy High Flange Record Hubs.
If their are any Fuji afficionados here please help me out.
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