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Old 01-28-15, 09:01 PM
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Elswick 10 Speed

Have a question about this old beat up lightweight. Disclaimer: I realize it is, as it sits, a POS. And maybe, even if fixed, still might retain that title.

I am *guessing* it's from the 80's based on it's Altus components as well as the tube frame sticker.

There is a serial number, M0E21706. Anything I've found on Elswick serial numbers, would indicate a 1968 model, but I'm guessing it's not a reliable means to guess this bikes age. The Headbadge is a decal "E/F" - (Elswick/Falcon) - ....again, being a sticker, nothing very 'vintage'.

What I am wondering is, if anyone has any knowlege of these bikes, and if so, what model was it (I *guess* it is a Sovereign, but do not really know). AND....what kind of BB/crank could work in this thing. It's a very light bike btw, which is what sparked my interest in it, as well as it's relative obscurity. The color of the paint is not one I particularly like, and the fork ends are chrome, hidden by easily removed rust.

Brakes are Shimano Tourney. Back wheel is Midland Wheel Group with a phone number in Birmingham, and front is a standard old Weinmann that has been stamped, vs. a sticker - Made in Belgium.

Any help - greatly appreciated!





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Old 01-28-15, 11:12 PM
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With a straight gauge moly steel frame, it may be comparable to a Raleigh Super Course or to my 1959 Capo -- nothing wrong with that. Someone more knowledgeable in Belgian frames can correct me, but I would expect it to have French BB threading. If you can find one at a reasonable price, a cotterless TA, Stronglight, or Nervar crankset would be appropriate. I am very partial to the 1970s Nervar Star. Even a cottered steel crank could work well, or a (rare) cotterless steel Nervar.
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With a straight gauge moly steel frame, it may be comparable to a Raleigh Super Course or to my 1959 Capo -- nothing wrong with that. Someone more knowledgeable in Belgian frames can correct me, but I would expect it to have French BB threading. If you can find one at a reasonable price, a cotterless TA, Stronglight, or Nervar crankset would be appropriate. I am very partial to the 1970s Nervar Star. Even a cottered steel crank could work well, or a (rare) cotterless steel Nervar.
Thank you John. It is indeed very much like my own 74 Super Course MK2 - which does, as I think it was you had pointed out in my old thread about it, have a steel cotterless crank on it - a Nervar Sport. There is a lot of information on Elswick bikes, but it's confusing - and things from this late 70's/early 80's time period are few and far between, other than old auction ads. The frame itself looks much older though, thus the confusing part about it. The closest thing I could find was a Elswick 'Turbo 12', although this is a 10 speed. Thanks for your thoughts on the BB threading/cranks - excellent, I'll look in the shop parts bin and see what works..!

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Hello Mike,

thanks for posting the pictures and the serial number.

The "EH" headbadge is for Elswick-Hopper Cycle, Barton-on-Humber. Probably before it merged with Falcon.

The serial number is probably for a Japanese frame. M=Miki, 0=1980, E=May. The M may also be for Miyata.

Check the date codes of the Shimano components and SR stem to verify the date of the frame.

Here is a link to another EH bicycle: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...d-eh-logo.html

I do not know the Elswick models.
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Thank you Hummer.....really appreciate your taking the time to provide your insight; sorry I was a bit late to reply. Lots to consider - and I'll check the component dates on it further. What a very strange bike this is. Thanks again!

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Hi mike,

happy to help steer you to information. No apologies necessary, it is an internet forum and to me speed of reply is not that important.
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